David and Rob dive deep into the realms of leadership, faith, and culture. They are joined by Jes Averhart, a renowned leadership advisor and fourth-generation entrepreneur. Jes shares insights on value-centered leadership, the importance of asking questions over seeking immediate answers, and embracing optimism and curiosity.

Throughout the conversation, various aspects of leadership challenges such as overcoming fear and anxiety, embodying principles, maintaining a 'say-do' ratio, and the concept of 'proximate leadership' are explored. Jes also discusses the significance of being a calm leader in times of flux and change, and shares personal stories to illustrate her points. Ultimately, this episode encourages leaders to engage deeply with their teams and communities, promoting trust and fostering growth.

00:00 Introduction to the 11 Ten Leadership Podcast

01:13 Halloween Vibes and Personal Catch-Up

02:18 Introducing Jes Averhart

02:44 Jes Averhart's Background and Achievements

06:00 The State of Leadership Today

08:59 Value-Centered Leadership and Nostalgia

13:51 Challenges and Anxieties in Leadership

15:37 Navigating Crucible Moments

19:51 The Journey of Self-Discovery

20:32 Exploring the Third Door

21:45 The Thrive Assessment for Business Leaders

22:41 The Importance of Inner Work for Leaders

24:05 Holistic Leadership Conversations

26:29 The Power of Proximity in Leadership

29:24 Challenges in Embracing Just Leadership

30:55 The Say-Do Ratio in Leadership

32:34 Navigating Different Spaces as a Leader

35:33 The Role of Optimism and Learning in Leadership

38:14 Final Thoughts and Bottom Lines