Snyk sees itself as a developer community that does security. There, it's not about hiring security practitioners, but around getting developers to embrace security best practices. On today's episode of The New Stack Makers, TNS Founder Alex Williams sat down with Snyk's CEO Guy Podjarny to discuss the levels of abstraction in today's infrastructures, how those impact developers, and the many ways in which infrastructure impacts how developers work with Kubernetes and AWS.

Developers are ultimately those that have to manage and understand what components and libraries are used. "I think it's around drawing lines. So again, you have an app and written code. What is the app? The minimal description is you wrote code, you decorated it with libraries and a container, and moved it on its way."

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/r6p98prQZqY