The Sacramentarians in the 16th century, the "bad guys", denied that Jesus can be with us "where two or more are gathered", nor, they said, could Jesus be with us "to the end of the age". In response to this heresy, the Lutheran reformers responded as follows: Scripture defines three different modes of presence for Jesus. First is the circumscriptive, or local presence, (i.e. when His body displaces air). Second is a definitive mode of presence, His body is present, in a defined place without occupying space. This mode of presence is not measurable. Think angels, who do not displace air but their location can be pointed to definitively. We observe the definitive body of Jesus as He comes through walls (John 20) and through the tombstone, before it is rolled away. In these situations, Jesus is not moving air. The third mode of presence is the repletive, or supernatural, mode of presence. This is where Jesus can be present in all places at one time. It is not a measurable presence, yet it is a real presence and there are no limits to the presence. In the Lord's Supper, Jesus is present in the 2nd mode, the definitive mode, because He says while holding the bread, "This is My body." His presence is not measurable, but we can point to a specific location, definitive in the bread. You are invited to listen to this teaching.