In episode 392 astrologers Adam Elenbaas and Chris Brennan discuss the relationship between fate and astrology, and how astrology can be used as a tool to study fate.

This episode was originally recorded as a Q&A for Adam's YouTube channel, where we answered some questions that were sent in my his fans about fate, free-will, and ancient astrology.

During the course of the episode we talk about how ancient astrologers viewed fate, and used astrology as a tool for understanding and negotiating it.

Along the way we also touched on other topics such as karma and reincarnation, electional astrology and magic, and how to delineate a birth chart in a way that balances determinism and free-will.

This episode is available in both audio and video versions below.

Timestamps

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:11 Diverse views of ancient astrologers

00:04:48 Were ancient astrologers fatalistic?

00:07:10 Definition of fate

00:10:35 Complete determinism

00:16:03 Partial determinism

00:19:08 Signs vs Causes

00:30:07 Resources about Jung on astrology

00:31:28 Is fate the same as karma?

00:43:24 Was astrology a religion?

00:49:08 Did ancient astrologers believe your chart was a set of instructions?

01:02:16 Was astrological magic used by all astrologers?

01:10:30 Electional astrology and magic

01:12:44 Limitations of predictive astrology

01:18:20 What successful astrology looks like

01:22:36 Why ancient texts sound fatalistic

01:28:45 Modern astrology's view of charts as a set of potentials

01:37:42 How to deliver a delineation

01:38:45 Why fate is a good thing

01:44:36 Concluding remarks

01:47:04 Patrons and sponsors

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAr4wbJ-gMs

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Transcript

A full transcript of this episode is available: Episode 392 transcript

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