Dr. Jeffrey Long and Trisha McGill examine near-death experiences including disturbing accounts of hellish encounters that challenge assumptions about universal heavenly NDEs. Long's research through the Near Death Experience Research Foundation has documented thousands of cases revealing consistent patterns in NDE reports including life reviews, tunnel experiences, and encounters with deceased loved ones and spiritual beings. The conversation addresses controversial negative NDEs where experiencers report terrifying hellish environments, examining what such experiences might reveal about consciousness, judgment, and spiritual consequences of earthly choices. McGill shares Sarah's disturbing NDE involving hellish imagery and spiritual torment, exploring how such experiences affect people's lives and spiritual understanding. Long discusses the frequency and characteristics of negative NDEs while examining whether they represent actual spiritual realities or consciousness-generated experiences based on belief systems and psychological state. The discussion covers how positive and negative NDEs share certain features while differing dramatically in emotional tone and apparent spiritual implications. Both speakers address the transformational impact of NDEs regardless of their positive or negative nature, examining how such experiences fundamentally alter people's priorities, values, and understanding of reality. The conversation explores what the full spectrum of NDE reports might reveal about consciousness survival and the nature of postmortem experience.