Tara is joined by MSNBC political analyst and new Puck contributor John Heilemann, and they begin the pod by discussing Michael Cohen’s testimony in the Donald Trump hush money trial and the impact the case could possibly have on voters in November. They then assess the state of the Trump and Joe Biden campaigns, share their reactions to the announcement of their upcoming debates, and dissect the current presidential poll numbers.

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Host: Tara Palmeri

Guest: John Heilemann

Producer: Chris Sutton

Production Supervision: Conor Nevins

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