Even prior to this week’s impeachment inquiry, Joe Biden has been dogged by attacks from Donald Trump and his allies … but so far, he hasn’t hit back. On today’s episode, Tara chats with First Lady Jill Biden's former press secretary, Michael LaRosa, about whether the president should be punching back. He also talks about what it's like to work with the Bidens, and how Joe likely sees his own polls.

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Host: Tara Palmer

Guest: Michael LaRosa

Producers: Devon Manze and Conor Nevins

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