In this episode, host B. Reeves and CEO Justin McClendon sit down with John Griffin, the founder of Time for Sober Living in Raleigh. After decades of watching family members struggle with addiction and hitting a breaking point with constant enabling, John took matters into his own hands. He breaks down why traditional peer-led models often fail, the vital role of live-in house managers, and the strict boundaries required to keep a recovery house safe.

If you are a family member trying to navigate the recovery space, or someone looking for a true step-down environment after treatment, John’s raw perspective on accountability is a must-watch.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:00] Welcome to Finding New Waters with John Griffin from Time for Sober Living

[01:16] What does "sober living" actually mean? Structure vs. independence

[04:29] The reality of Oxford Houses and why modern sober living had to pivot

[06:34] Why the Live-In House Manager is the ultimate anchor for recovery

[08:46] What inspired John Griffin: Family addiction, tragedy, and stopping the enabling

[11:18] The brutal truth about treatment success rates and navigating the system

[13:05] Hard conversations: Telling residents to stop talking and start acting

[17:17] Removing the "cancer" from a house without causing a physical confrontation

[21:49] Keeping the ship running: Why 5 good guys beat 9 knuckleheads

[23:09] Being the best neighbor on the block and breaking the flophouse stereotype

[28:38] Mental safety and the reality of keeping the house secure

[30:04] Location details and capacity of the Raleigh houses

[31:10] Ownership and obligation: "There is no shame in recovery"

LINKS & RESOURCES

* Time for Sober Living (Raleigh, NC): https://www.timeforsoberliving.com

* Fellowship Hall (Greensboro, NC): https://www.fellowshiphall.com

* Sauna House (Charlotte, NC): https://www.saunahouse.com

* Oxford House: https://www.oxfordhouse.org

CALL TO ACTION

If this conversation helped shed some light on what real recovery looks like, please subscribe to Finding New Waters, hit the like button, and drop a comment below. Let’s work together to eliminate the stigma.

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#FindingNewWaters #SoberLiving #AddictionRecovery #RecoveryCommunity #TimeForSoberLiving #RaleighNC #StepDownTreatment #RecoveryBoundaries #EndTheStigma #SobrietySupport

When a loved one is in an addiction crisis, the first thing most families do is search Google for help. In this hard-hitting clip from Finding New Waters, Josh Miller (Founder of Walk Again Restore) exposes the dark reality of online rehab marketing. He breaks down why the top search results rarely represent the best care, and how deep pockets beat clinical quality every single time.Don't let algorithms dictate a life-or-death decision. Learn how to look past the shiny websites and find specialized, honest programs that actually stay in their lane of integrity.NOTABLE QUOTES* "Stop looking at the internet. It's a bad place to find treatment."* "What's going to appear on Google has more to do with like the money that people have invested to rank in Google, not necessarily the best program."LINKS & RESOURCES* Primary Website: https://www.newwatersrecovery.com* Guest Link: Josh Miller - Founder of Walk Again Resources (website under construction) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-miller-4b346a32/* Walk Again Resources Website: http://www.walkagainresources.comDONATION / SUPPORTNot mentioned in transcript.CALL TO ACTIONThe internet shouldn't be the gatekeeper to recovery. Subscribe to Finding New Waters for more raw truths about navigating the treatment landscape. Drop a comment below if you've encountered these shady marketing tactics.KEYWORDSaddiction treatment traps, finding a rehab on google, rehab marketing secrets, walk again resources, josh miller, b reeves, finding new waters, ethical addiction recovery, deceptive drug rehabs, how to choose a treatment center, long term rehab quality, google maps rehab scamHASHTAGS#FindingNewWater #AddictionRecovery #RehabTruth #StopScrolling #MentalHealthMatters #WalkAgain #Sobriety🎙️ Watch & ListenWebsite: www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B.Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Klay Weaver, CEO of LifeSkills. With nearly 40 years of experience in behavioral health, Klay shares insights on expanding access to care, bypassing organizational red tape during acute mental health crises, and the crucial differences between primary addiction and primary psychiatric treatment.

Klay also dives deep into a massive national trend mental health professionals are witnessing: a significant uptick in cannabis-induced psychosis among young adults. He breaks down how modern-day marijuana interacts with underlying psychiatric vulnerabilities, its intersection with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), and why clinical reality paints a very different picture than public perception.

TIMESTAMPS

[01:00:03] - The Importance of Direct Access to Care in Behavioral Health

[01:02:29] - LifeSkills Regional Footprint and Facilities in South Florida

[01:04:01] - The Story and Metaphor Behind "Finding New Waters"

[01:06:31] - From Teaching Philosophy to 40 Years in Group Homes and Care

[01:11:46] - The Evolution of LifeSkills and Purchasing Eric Clapton's Sanctuary Homes

[01:14:11] - Exposing the History of South Florida's Care Communities

[01:24:08] - Overcoming Clinical Stigma and Red Tape for Acute Patient Admissions

[01:28:52] - The Massive Uptick in Cannabis Induced Psychosis and Marijuana Misconceptions

[01:31:03] - Treating Marijuana Abuse and Psychiatric Conditions on the Autism Spectrum

[01:34:43] - The Chronic Sub-Acute, Residential, and Outpatient Models at LifeSkills

[01:41:49] - Post-COVID Expansion of Mental Health Services Nationwide

NOTABLE QUOTES

* "In our smaller private systems, interesting access to care is still a critical thing, but from a different angle, you get a very needing a lot of very fast moving work." - Klay Weaver

* "The young adults in today's world think just because something's legal, that it's okay. Well, it may be legal, but medically it is not your friend." - Klay Weaver

* "What we're seeing on the mental health side is an overabundance of individuals coming into our facilities with cannabis-induced psychosis." - Klay Weaver

* "It triggers an underlying psychiatric issue, and then the individual can't pull themselves out of it. They become psychotic, paranoid, hallucinatory, and delusional." - Klay Weaver

* "I like finding answers and not having discussions." - Klay Weaver

* "When you say you're doing behavior against vulnerable people, like, you know, that just makes you bristle all over. That is the wrong population." - Klay Weaver

LINKS & RESOURCES

*Lifeskills South Florida Official Website: http://www.lifeskillssouthflorida.com

DONATION / SUPPORT

Not mentioned in transcript.

CALL TO ACTION

If you or a loved one are searching for new paths to recovery, remember to subscribe to Finding New Waters. Leave a comment below with your thoughts on today's episode, and like this video to help spread these critical mental health insights to those who need them most.

#MentalHealth #BehavioralHealth #FindingNewWaters #NewWatersRecovery #LifeSkills #CannabisInducedPsychosis #PsychiatricCare #TraumaRecovery #SoberLiving #DelrayBeach #CrisisIntervention

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What does a real behavioral health crisis look like, and how do families navigate the confusing road to recovery? In this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Henry Maxwell of Maxwell Recovery Services to discuss the reality of modern case management, the dangers of high-potency cannabis, and why the old narrative of confrontational interventions needs to change.

Henry shares his personal journey from surviving severe adolescent heroin addiction to founding a concierge crisis management and long-term case management firm in Carbondale, Colorado. The conversation dives deep into the rising acuity of mental health issues, dealing with family dynamics, and the critical importance of long-term support systems.

TIMESTAMPS

[01:00:00] Finding New Waters Welcome and Guest Introduction

[01:00:57] What is Concierge Crisis Management and Long-Term Case Management?

[01:01:34] Defining a Crisis: Suicidal, Homicidal, and Acute Substance Risks

[01:03:43] Reality Testing: How to Slow Down a Dysregulated Family System

[01:05:20] Debunking the Television Myth of "Intervention"

[01:07:43] Reframing "Tough Love" vs. Structured Family Conversations

[01:09:24] Why Families Know What to Do But Can't Do It Without Support

[01:11:46] The Primary Role: "Being the calmest person in the room."

[01:12:39] Cultivating Resiliency and Navigating a Fragmented Healthcare System

[01:14:53] Henry Maxwell's Story: Severe Adolescent Heroin Addiction to Recovery

[01:16:05] Getting Started in Community Mental Health and Detox Centers

[01:20:07] Navigating Complex Dynamics and Divorced Parents in a Crisis

[01:22:12] The Changing Drug Landscape: Fentanyl vs. the Rise of Cannabis Calls

[01:24:38] The Evolution of Modern Cannabis: Potency Increases and Parental Blindspots

[01:27:23] Vapes, Gummies, and Continuous Ingestion Hazards

[01:28:33] Understanding Cannabis Induced Hyperemesis and Cyclical Vomiting

[01:29:26] How to Connect with Maxwell Recovery Services

[01:31:40] Closing Remarks and Future Collaboration

NOTABLE QUOTES

* "Essentially we, we support families in going from the initial crisis stage of, you know, a behavioral health issue to thriving at the end of that." - Henry Maxwell

* "When families in particular are, are really dysregulated, they're, they're having a very hard time... I consider that crisis too" - Henry Maxwell

* "When we're showing up, when we're offering support and we're also saying, we are not going to continue to support you harming yourself. That's not tough. That's just love." - Henry Maxwell

* "I think a lot of people know what to do. They just can't do it. Right. And that speaks to, I think, the nature of relationship and support" - Henry Maxwell

* "Relationship is the name of the game. Right." - Henry Maxwell

* "Cannabis potency on average has gone up something like 400% over the last 20 years. And it is a different, a different game these days." - Henry Maxwell

LINKS & RESOURCES

* Maxwell Recovery Services Website: https://maxwellrecoveryservices.com

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CALL TO ACTION

If you or a loved one are walking through a behavioral health crisis, don't navigate it alone. Subscribe to Finding New Waters for more insights from recovery experts, like this video, and share your thoughts in the comments below.

#FindingNewWaters #AddictionRecovery #MentalHealthCrisis #Intervention #CaseManagement #CannabisAwareness #ToughLove #RecoveryJourney #SubstanceUseDisorder #BehavioralHealth #HealingFamilies

On this episode of Finding New Waters, hosts B Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with legendary singer-songwriter Edwin McCain. Best known for his massive hits "I'll Be" and "I Could Not Ask For More," Edwin opens up about a side of his life rarely seen in the spotlight.

From his early days in Greenville, South Carolina, and his adoption journey, to the high-stakes pressure of the music industry and his personal path through recovery, Edwin shares a raw and honest look at what happens when the music stops. He discusses the intersection of ADHD and addiction, the "protocol" of 1970s adoption, and why he feels he is simply "paying the wage" to his 15-year-old self.

**Chapter Timestamps**

00:00 - Intro: Welcome Edwin McCain

01:02 - The "Orphanage Protocol" and adoption story

01:03 - Growing up with ADHD and dyslexia in the South

01:06 - Finding an aptitude for music

01:10 - Living the 15-year-old dream

01:13 - The "Sellout" trap in the jam band scene

01:16 - Life on tour with Bob Weir

01:20 - The ADHD treatment paradox and early substance use

01:22 - Why the music industry won't "clean you up"

01:24 - The crossroads: No one is coming to save you

01:26 - "Welcome to the club": Finding community in treatment

01:35 - Reclaiming "Analog Peace" in a digital world

01:54 - Hopes for the next generation and closing thoughts

#EdwinMcCain #FindingNewWaters #Recovery #MusicIndustry #AddictionRecovery #ADHD #MentalHealth #IllBe #Podcast #HealingJourney

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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Evan Jarschauer, a licensed psychotherapist and mental health intervention specialist with nearly two decades of experience helping families navigate crisis, treatment, and recovery.

Evan explains what makes mental health interventions different from traditional substance use interventions, why gambling and online gaming are becoming more difficult to detect, how families can take action when a loved one refuses help, and why intervention work must be done with compassion, dignity, love, and a firm backbone.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:00:00] Welcome to Finding New Waters with Evan Jarschauer

[00:01:18] What mental health interventions actually are

[00:02:38] Helping families when the message is not being received

[00:03:59] Evan’s background as a licensed psychotherapist

[00:05:08] What a gambling intervention can look like

[00:06:21] Why online gambling is making addiction harder to see

[00:07:36] “I’m not drinking. I’m not drugging”

[00:08:28] Why Evan says his world has exploded with mental health, gaming, and gambling cases

[00:09:34] Why interventionists should connect with casino management first

[00:11:50] Why there is no cookie cutter answer for gambling treatment

[00:12:53] Gathering collateral information before an intervention

[00:14:25] Timing a gambling intervention

[00:15:47] Why the family’s readiness matters

[00:16:10] Comparing crisis response to any other serious disease

[00:17:14] Respectful, dignified, supportive, loving, firm intervention

[00:17:38] Evan’s television work and public awareness

[00:18:31] Demystifying what interventions look like

[00:19:42] Standing in front of the Kardashians house in Calabasas

[00:20:56] “If you can just touch one family”

[00:21:39] Mental health struggles can be hidden in plain sight

[00:23:31] Treating every family like they matter deeply

[00:25:24] Reducing stigma and helping people access care

[00:25:50] How to find Evan Jarschauer

[00:26:31] Closing thoughts

LINKS & RESOURCES

Behavioral Help: https://www.behavioralhelp.com

New Waters Recovery: https://newwatersrecovery.com

CALL TO ACTION

If this conversation helped you better understand mental health interventions, gambling addiction, family crisis, or how to support someone who refuses help, subscribe to Finding New Waters for more honest conversations about recovery, mental health, treatment, and hope.

Like this episode, leave a comment with what stood out to you, and share it with a family who may need to hear it.

#FindingNewWaters

#NewWatersRecovery

#MentalHealth

#MentalHealthIntervention

#AddictionRecovery

#GamblingAddiction

#OnlineGambling

#FamilySupport

#BehavioralHealth

#RecoveryPodcast

#DualDiagnosis

#CrisisIntervention

#MentalHealthAwareness

#TreatmentWorks

#ReduceTheStigma

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Nick Slovak, the Chief Operating Officer of Advaita Health, joins the Finding New Waters podcast to discuss the critical evolution of behavioral health care. He shares his personal journey of finding sobriety at age 21 and how that experience shaped his mission to create more accessible treatment systems in North Carolina.

The conversation explores the transition from high-end private pay models to an integrated, insurance-based system of care that addresses the crisis of psychiatry wait times. Justin and Nick dive into the importance of supporting healthcare providers and why building a genuine community remains the most vital component of long-term recovery.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:00:00] Introduction to Nick Slovak and Advaita Health

[00:02:10] Nick Slovak's personal recovery story

[00:05:07] Moving from private pay to insurance models

[00:07:36] The feedback that changed their business model

[00:08:55] Scaling care and working with insurance payers

[00:13:26] Defining the integrated model of care

[00:15:28] Solving the crisis of psychiatry wait times

[00:16:48] The courage required to ask for help

[00:20:02] Prioritizing provider support and staff wellbeing

[00:23:16] Why community is central to the recovery process

[00:27:18] Emotional health as a lifelong journey

[00:29:18] How to contact Veda Health and Advaita Health

NOTABLE QUOTES

* "I got sober when I was 21 years old."

* "The gene of addiction, I think runs, fairly deep."

* "You just run a very expensive sober living."

* "It remains accessible to get the help that you need."

* "Access, um, is really an important piece."

* "Community is central."

LINKS & RESOURCES

* Primary Website: newwatersrecovery.com

* Advaita Health: vedahealth.com

* Aim Wellbeing: aimwellbeing.com

* Green Hill Recovery: greenhillrecovery.com

DONATION / SUPPORT

Not mentioned in transcript.

CALL TO ACTION

Subscribe to the Finding New Waters podcast for more episodes on recovery and mental health. Please like this video and comment below to let us know your thoughts on the integrated model of care.

KEYWORDS

Advaita Health, Nick Slovak, Justin McClendon, Finding New Waters, addiction recovery, mental health North Carolina, behavioral health, psychiatry wait times, insurance based treatment, Raleigh recovery, substance use, integrated care, recovery journey, sobriety, mental health stigma, healthcare operations, Veda Health, Aim Wellbeing, Green Hill Recovery, substance use provider, PHP, IOP, outpatient care, medication management, provider burnout, healthcare culture, behavioral health home, adolescent mental health, young adult recovery, North Carolina healthcare.

HASHTAGS

#NickSlovak #AdvaitaHealth #FindingNewWaters #Recovery #MentalHealth #Sobriety #NorthCarolina #BehavioralHealth #AddictionRecovery #HealthcareReform #Psychiatry #MentalHealthAwareness

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"I help people find freedom in their system by getting out of freeze." Brooke Powers joins Finding New Waters to discuss somatic coaching and nervous system regulation.

In this episode, we explore how your body stores trauma and why "our state of our nervous system tells our story." Brooke explains her four part framework: Acclimate, Incorporate, Rediscover, and Embody to help clients shift into a connected, regulated state.

TIMESTAMPS

[01:00:09] Introduction to Brooke Powers and Wellness Assist

[01:00:47] What is a somatic coach?

[01:01:41] The four part somatic framework

[01:02:00] Understanding the "freeze" state: activation and shutdown

[01:03:34] How to do the "Huberman breath" for regulation

[01:05:22] Why we pick up our caregiver's nervous system state

[01:06:46] Scanning the world for danger: hypervigilance

[01:07:27] Finding moments of safety as anchors

[01:08:46] Post traumatic growth and health scares

[01:09:54] Explaining the Ventral Ladder and Polyvagal Theory

[01:11:38] Dissociation: being a "fly on the corner" of your life

[01:13:14] Ice baths: getting back into your body

[01:15:19] Using infrared saunas and vibration plates to build resilience

[01:18:32] PTSD and how the body stores trauma

[01:21:02] Re parenting the younger self through "parts work"

[01:23:06] Is trauma the real gateway drug?

[01:26:34] Why we should teach kids regulating resources

[01:28:20] The link between dehydration, sleep, and anxiety

[01:31:46] Logistics: How to find and work with Brooke Powers

LINKS & RESOURCES

Primary Website: newwatersrecovery.com

Brooke Powers Website: somaticcoachingnc.com

Wellness Assist

Instagram: @be_your_oasis

Book: "The Body Keeps the Score" by Bessel van der Kolk

Theory: Polyvagal Theory by Deb Dana

Resource: Tim Fletcher YouTube Channel

Location Mentioned: Grove Park Inn, Asheville

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CALL TO ACTION

Subscribe to Finding New Waters for more insights into recovery and wellness. Like this video if it helped you understand your nervous system better and comment below with your favorite regulating resource.

#SomaticCoaching #NervousSystem #TraumaRecovery #TheBodyKeepsTheScore #PolyvagalTheory #VentralLadder #PostTraumaticGrowth #IceBaths #MentalHealth #AnxietyRelief #HealingTrauma #Wellness

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In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves sits down with Dr. Yesenia Almaguer and Andrew Ditts, the husband and wife founders of SOHL.

Dr. Almaguer explains SOHL as “the mental health SWAT team,” built to support worried families who are in crisis and do not know where to start. They break down what SOHL actually does, including interventions, case management, and coaching, and why there is no “cookie cutter approach” when the situation involves multiple layers like addiction, trauma, and personality disorders.

Andrew shares why having a psychiatrist who is also an interventionist changes everything in complex cases, from recognizing the difference between “manic” and emotional dysregulation, to identifying signs that could suggest a thought disorder. Dr. Almaguer also shares why her experience working in a mobile crisis unit in the Bronx prepared her for in-home crisis work, and why SOHL is focused on ethics, training, and working themselves out of a job.

CHAPTERS

[01:00:14] Welcome back, introductions, Dr. Yesenia Almaguer and Andrew Ditts

[01:01:01] “mental health SWAT team” and what SOHL is

[01:02:30] Andrew defines SOHL: complex in-home crisis cases, building and removing the team

[01:04:48] What an intervention is, and why it is a process

[01:06:14] Why a typical sit-down model can fail in complex mental health cases

[01:08:42] Why having an MD involved in interventions matters

[01:10:10] Why going into the home changes what you can assess

[01:11:26] Black Swan training and Harvard negotiation training

[01:12:50] Andrew on “manic,” assessment, and why medical training changes the questions

[01:16:00] Example: details that can point to a thought disorder presentation

[01:18:10] Dr. Almaguer New York case example: asking the right questions to build trust

[01:20:05] B Reeves on “mania” being thrown around and why it matters

[01:23:12] Andrew’s path: USC acting conservatory, addiction, and 12 Step in Los Angeles

[01:26:35] Program junkie, early industry “wild wild west,” and why case management matters

[01:32:02] Dr. Almaguer background: Mexico, Miami, Bronx residency, Dallas fellowship

[01:34:40] Why they started SOHL and changing the culture for clients and companions

[01:36:36] Why it is spelled SOHL, “human connection to heal the soul”

[01:37:30] Andrew on connection, attachment, and why relationships drive change

[01:40:37] How to find SOHL, monthly trainings, Companion Circle, supervision group

[01:42:22] Contact emails and closing

GUEST AND ORGANIZATION LINKS

SOHL Website

https://www.thesohl.com

Customized Care for Substance Use Disorder & Mental Illness | SOHL

https://www.instagram.com/thesohl?igsh=MWlzY2t5bDh1cXFyaw==

https://www.facebook.com/share/1KqcSVjCqZ/?mibextid=wwXIfr

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sohl-enterprises-a40873211?utm_source=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=member_ios

SOHL LinkedIn

Soul Enterprises Incorporated

SOHL Instagram

@thesohl

SOHL Emails

[email protected]

[email protected]

Jump to:

[01:01:01] What SOHL is

[01:04:48] What an intervention really is

[01:12:50] Why having a psychiatrist in the full process changes outcomes

[01:36:36] Why it is spelled SOHL

Website: https://thesohl.com/

Instagram: @thesohl

Instagram Business - thesohl

LinkedIn Business - SOHL Enterprises

Andrew's Personal LinkedIn - Andrew Dits

Dr. Almaguer's Personal LinkedIn - Yesenia Almaguer, M.D.

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#FindingNewWatersPodcast #NewWatersRecovery #MentalHealth #Intervention #CaseManagement #Coaching #DualDiagnosis #AddictionRecovery #CrisisIntervention #FamilySystems #Psychiatry #TraumaInformed #BorderlinePersonalityDisorder #EthicsInCare #SOHL

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B Reeves and CEO Justin McClendon sit down with Jesse Quam, an educational consultant and therapist based in Black Mountain, North Carolina.

Jesse shares how a friend’s wilderness job in Utah “changed my life,” what it actually means when people say “wilderness,” and why getting outside and away from technology can reset the nervous system and the family system. He breaks down how therapeutic wilderness evolved from early programs like BYU 480, why outcome data matters, and what he believes will bring wilderness back in a big way as phone use and modern distractions keep climbing.

Jesse also pulls the curtain back on what a therapeutic educational consultant does: how the first call works, why the whole family has to join the process, and how he helps families make the right “chess moves” across a full year of treatment and aftercare.

Subscribe for more recovery conversations from Finding New Waters.

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CHAPTERS

[01:00:35] Introductions: B Reeves, Justin McClendon, Jesse Quam

[01:01:57] Jesse’s background: pastor’s kid, Chicago, Utah wilderness, Boston College

[01:03:35] Educational consulting: visiting 305 programs, supporting families through the year

[01:04:48] What “wilderness” actually means in this field

[01:05:40] BYU 480 and the roots of wilderness programs

[01:06:31] Safety, outcomes, and what the data says

[01:07:49] Why wilderness programs declined and why they may come back

[01:10:47] Phones, modern life, and why a detox matters

[01:17:35] What Jesse does when a family calls: first call process

[01:19:40] Family system buy-in, boundaries, and using leverage when needed

[01:22:54] What changed over 30 years: internal kids, isolation, social skills, fentanyl risk

[01:27:02] Community connection and longevity

[01:30:30] Outward Bound influence and experiential learning

[01:34:46] Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter Outward Bound story

[01:35:35] Wrap-up and closing

GUEST AND ORGANIZATION LINKS

Jesse Quam and Dr. John Huie (Quam & Huie: Educational Consultants)

http://johnhuie.com/about-us/

RESOURCES MENTIONED

Outward Bound

https://www.outwardbound.org/

NOLS

https://www.nols.edu/

Montreat College

https://www.montreat.edu/

Boston College School of Social Work

https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/schools/ssw.html

The Carter Center

https://www.cartercenter.org/

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