Today were talking hazardous materials, detection technology, and how it’s reshaping our work in the fire and rescue services.

Joining me is Dr. Mark L. Norman, a Senior Field Applications Scientist at 908 Devices and a leading subject matter expert in optical detection technologies. With over 20 years of experience in hazmat detection systems for emergency response, Mark brings both scientific expertise and real-world insight. He holds a Ph.D. in Analytical Chemistry from UNC-Chapel Hill, has authored peer-reviewed publications — including a 2003 collaboration with NASA climatologists — and is an inventor on two patents related to hazardous gas and vapor identification.

In our conversation, we talk about the evolution of detection technology — from lab-based instruments to field-deployable units — and the shift that happened post-9/11 when incidents like the anthrax letters drove new levels of investment and innovation. We also unpack common hazmat misconceptions, the difference between gases and vapors, acute vs chronic exposures, and why understanding things like molecular weight and vapor density can literally save lives at the fireground.

My hope is this gives you a clearer understanding of how to approach hazmat incidents more confidently, why good detection equipment matters, and how new threats like EV battery fires and fentanyl contamination are pushing the sector to adapt fast.

So If you're a firefighter, incident commander, hazmat operator, or someone who just wants to deepen their operational awareness, this episode is packed with practical, relevant insight that will help you do the job better and safer.

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In this powerful episode, we revisit the tragic events of July 13, 2013, when Firefighter Stephen Hunt of Greater Manchester Fire and Rescue Service lost his life at the Paul’s Hair and Beauty World fire in Manchester. Drawing on published investigation reports, inquest findings, and conversations with those who attended the incident, we piece together a detailed timeline of events and examine the operational decisions, safety measures, and communication breakdowns that shaped this complex and devastating fireground.

This episode is shared with the utmost respect for Stephen’s memory and the firefighters who responded that day. It serves as both a tribute and a call to action—a reminder that no matter our experience or rank, we must always challenge uncertainty, seek clarity, and understand the logic behind tactical decisions. We all play a part in our own safety and the safety of our crews. This is part of an ongoing commitment to share local and international debriefs that help us learn, reflect, and grow throughout every stage of our fire service careers.

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Final episode in our PGI Particulate Protection & Decontamination Seminar Series. So far, we've heard powerful stories from families, survivors, and advocates within the firefighting community. Today, we shift focus to innovation and action.

Joining me is Jo Taylor MBE, founder of De-Wipe—a company dedicated to developing scientifically backed decontamination solutions that help reduce the risk of occupational cancer among firefighters. Jo brings a unique perspective: one that bridges scientific insight, product innovation, and a deep commitment to firefighter health.

In this conversation, we explore how simple, effective post-incident routines—like proper skin decontamination—can make a life-saving difference. We also discuss Jo’s journey, her mission, and how De-Wipe is helping change the culture around contamination control in the fire service.

Brought to you with the support of PGI — leaders in high-performance protective gear — this series aims to educate, inspire, and drive change. Because protecting those who protect others isn’t optional — it’s essential.

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Welcome back to the Decontamination Seminar Series. Today, we continue that journey with two remarkable voices from within the firefighting community—Robbie Burns and Michelle O'Toole. Both are cancer survivors. Both are advocates. And both have first-hand insight into the physical and mental toll of battling cancer as part of the firefighting community.

This episode is a raw, honest, and deeply human conversation about resilience, identity, and the importance of advocacy in the fight against firefighter cancer.

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In today’s episode, I’m joined by Dr. Dan Dworkis — emergency physician, Chief Medical Officer at the Mission Critical Team Institute, and founder of The Emergency Mind Project — for a powerful conversation on how mission-critical teams like firefighters and first responders can perform under pressure, recover effectively, and grow with intention. We dive into why emergencies often go wrong, the mental residue of high-stress calls, and how to balance service with self-care. From building stronger team dynamics to having better conversations with ourselves and our families, this episode offers real tools for those who operate in high-stakes environments and want to do it well — without burning out.

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Honouring Martin Green: A Family's Story - Welcome to this special episode in our six-part mini-series on firefighter cancer, protection, and decontamination — brought to you with the support of PGI, leaders in high-performance protective gear for those who serve on the front line.

Today’s conversation is one that hits straight to the heart. We’re honoured to share the story of Martin Green — a firefighter with over 30 years of service, a respected professional, a devoted husband, and a loving father. Martin tragically lost his life to cancer, a disease that continues to take far too many from our fire family. In this episode, I sit down with his wife Latitia and their son Evan to talk about the man behind the badge — and the journey they’ve walked since his diagnosis and passing.

This isn’t an easy listen, but it’s an essential one. Latesha and Evan speak with courage, grace, and honesty about the cost of service, the reality of occupational cancer, and the ripple effects it has on families and communities. Their story brings a deeply personal dimension to the conversations we’ve been having throughout this series — reminding us that behind every statistic is a life, a legacy, and people left behind.

If you’re a firefighter, a leader in the fire sector, or simply someone who cares about protecting those who protect others — this episode is a powerful call to action. It’s about raising awareness, driving cultural change, and making sure no firefighter family has to walk this path alone again.

This one’s for Martin — and for every firefighter we’ve lost too soon.

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My guest to day is John Lord, John is a Training specialist in Incident Management and a global leader in bringing attention and driving change in the fight against firefighter cancer.

this is part of of a powerful six-part mini-series dedicated to one of the most critical issues facing our profession: firefighter cancer, protection, and decontamination.

In this series, recorded around the Particulate, Protection & Decontamination Seminar held at Biggin Hill on March 27th, 2025, we dive headfirst into the hard truths and urgent conversations we need to be having — not tomorrow, but today. With input from survivors, health and safety leaders, mental health advocates, and operational experts, we unpack everything from current understanding of contamination-related cancer risks to real, practical steps departments are taking to reduce exposure and save lives.

This isn’t just about facts and figures — it’s about impact. It’s about learning from lived experience, sharing the latest research, and equipping firefighters and fire sector professionals with the tools to protect themselves and their crews. From the trauma of diagnosis to the innovations in kit and station design, we’ll look at how our culture is shifting, what barriers still need breaking, and what true protection looks like in 2025 and beyond.

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welcome to a very special episode, the launch of a powerful six-part mini-series dedicated to one of the most critical issues facing our profession: firefighter cancer, protection, and decontamination.

In this series, recorded around the Particulate, Protection & Decontamination Seminar held at Biggin Hill on March 27th, 2025, we dive headfirst into the hard truths and urgent conversations we need to be having — not tomorrow, but today. With input from survivors, health and safety leaders, mental health advocates, and operational experts, we unpack everything from current understanding of contamination-related cancer risks to real, practical steps departments are taking to reduce exposure and save lives.

This isn’t just about facts and figures — it’s about impact. It’s about learning from lived experience, sharing the latest research, and equipping firefighters and fire sector professionals with the tools to protect themselves and their crews. From the trauma of diagnosis to the innovations in kit and station design, we’ll look at how our culture is shifting, what barriers still need breaking, and what true protection looks like in 2025 and beyond.

Brought to you with the support of PGI — leaders in high-performance protective gear — this series aims to educate, inspire, and drive change. Because protecting those who protect others isn’t optional — it’s essential.

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Today I’m joined by Stuart Jackson — founder of ICE and a true force when it comes to human-centred leadership and cultural transformation. Stuart’s spent decades helping people, teams, and organisations unlock their potential, working across everything from the NHS to UK fire and rescue services. In this episode, we dive into what leadership really looks like in today’s world — the messy, emotional, deeply human kind. We talk about the power of gut instinct, emotional intelligence, and even what animals (yep, animals!) can teach us about leading others. Spoiler: it’s a lot.

This conversation is packed with golden nuggets for anyone on their leadership journey. Stuart and I explore the importance of vulnerability, the trap of toxic masculinity, and why clarity, compassion, and great listening matter more than ever. We touch on frameworks for handling tough conversations, the need to create safe, open spaces for teams, and why embracing imperfection might just be your leadership superpower. If you're ready to lead with more courage, authenticity, and heart — this one’s for you.

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This incident debrief covers the tragic fatalities of Firefighter Wornham and Firefighter Miller who lost their lives at 85 Harrow Court, Silam Road, Stevenage, Hertfordshire on 2nd February 2005.

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