Five At The Door

EPISODE 83 of Five At The Door features an engaging conversation with Tom from Townies, a band that has been making waves in the DIY music scene. Join us as Tom shares the journey of Townies, from their humble beginnings as summer camp counselors to finding their footing in the vibrant LA music community.

In this episode, Tom reflects on the challenges and triumphs the band has faced over the years, including their recent EP release and the exciting opportunities that have come with it. He discusses the importance of community in music, the evolution of their sound, and the inspiration behind their unique blend of genres.

The conversation dives deep into the creative process, as Tom reveals how their songwriting has been influenced by a variety of musical styles and the significance of staying true to their roots while exploring new sounds. Listeners will gain insight into the dynamics of being a three-piece band and the collaborative spirit that drives their music forward.

Don't miss this episode as we explore the rich narrative of Townies, the passion that fuels their artistry, and the bright future ahead.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Tom from Townies interviews Morno about his new EP

(00:45) Townies' second album, Reset, came out last year

(04:58) Townies started at a summer camp when Nolan, Steve and I were kids

(08:40) You play rhythm and lead at the same time on your guitar

(10:11) You guys played a handful of shows in Boston before moving to LA

(15:20) You sit well in a nostalgia, like, kind of writing sense

(15:48) Brock Rock is a spin, uh, doctors, weed rock band

(17:47) When you first started writing music, what were your biggest influences

(20:44) Townies' latest album explores the complicatedness of DIY music

(26:38) Once you learn the theory, there's so much freedom in songwriting

(31:33) Neil: My only desire is to never do a standard four chord

(35:42) How do other people glide along the fretboard on a guitar

(38:09) I find that your stuff is really unique. Is this like a taste thing

(43:08) It's that there's a lot of cool like, uh, is when it comes to sound

(43:49) M. M. is working on the second LP of Faux Pas

(48:10) Making music has been a lifelong dream for you

(49:47) Did Steve move to LA after you then? Did Chris move after you

(51:17) Tell me what it's like playing in la, because I feel like

(56:44) There is something that Nashville doesn't have which is that like there

(59:21) So where do you see townies in five years? Five years seems far away

(01:05:44) Lex: When LP1 came out, no one was ready for it

(01:10:20) Townies went to Tulsa for a short tour last month

(01:14:40) There's just something that you can't describe about that song. You cannot be like, um, again, uh, it is. It's

(01:15:45) Townies have an EP coming out; when are you releasing it

(01:19:31) Townies have a show Saturday in Milwaukee. I'm really excited about it

EPISODE 82 of Five At The Door features an enlightening conversation with Conor Kincade, a multifaceted figure in the DIY music scene. Join us as we take a deep dive into Conor's whirlwind year, from back-to-back tours to the exciting news of impending fatherhood, and his pivotal role in the ever-evolving landscape of independent music.

In this episode, Conor shares his journey through various roles, including being a drummer, booking agent, and now the CEO of Summit Shack, the organization behind the popular Faux[REDACTED] music festival. He reflects on the challenges of navigating the music industry, including a recent cease and desist from AEG that has sparked discussions about the implications of corporate influence on grassroots movements.

The conversation touches on the importance of community in the DIY scene, as Conor discusses how he curates lineups that not only feature established acts but also spotlight emerging talent. He emphasizes the significance of creating spaces for new artists to thrive, while also recognizing the contributions of his dedicated team. Listeners will get a glimpse into the behind-the-scenes dynamics of organizing a festival that has become a rite of passage for many bands.

Don't miss this episode as we explore the rich tapestry of Conor's experiences, the resilience of the DIY community, and the future of Faux[REDACTED] as it evolves into a new chapter.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Conor Kincade talks about his crazy year and expecting his first child

(02:53) You work at an employee benefits brokerage for your home job

(03:59) I used to be more of an agent and less, less booking now

(05:25) Matt says he thrives under a bit of pressure at work

(09:58) YouTube reportedly issued a cease and assist against Shaq's YouTube channel

(14:27) Riley: Thank you so much for supporting Shack over the years

(18:22) Snarl: I think the best time would have been right after Coachella

(23:41) Last year alone was like one of the best years of released music

(29:40) There's two schools of thought about releasing singles versus albums

(33:25) Riley says musicians are the most disobedient people in the world

(37:30) I think 777 is the most popular song on the record

(42:26) What are your favorite emo records between 2009 and 2018

(47:04) The booking process for Faux[REDACTED] has changed dramatically in recent years

(49:28) The new owners of Howard's are doing some less than desirable things

(52:43) What is your schedule like, when it comes to planning this festival

(57:49) For Faux 8, I wanted to have Mud Whale back

(01:02:14) M. Crow: I overbooked. It's just a normal way to do it

(01:06:19) Townies is a next year band for sure. They're the only California band to make it

(01:10:20) Free Throw started as a joke and then became a real band

(01:14:43) I accidentally learned how to book DIY tours for my own van

(01:18:18) In between all the online stuff, there's so much happening in real life

(01:20:44) There was a period where people called Faux Clicky

(01:24:59) I love trying to get bands to graduate Faux

(01:29:44) Shack's Coachella sold out in two days this year

(01:32:19) The AG stuff happened and we got the cease and desist

(01:34:15) Matt, Chance and Trey are available for hire as videographers

(01:37:02) All right, well, I. I. Done. Thank you so much for hopping on. Um, congratulations on everything

EPISODE 81 of Five At The Door features an in-depth conversation with Jason from Cult Therapy, a band that dives deep into the complexities of identity, grief, and personal transformation through music. Join us as Jason shares his unique journey from being a design engineer to stepping back into the music scene, revealing how his past experiences shaped the sound and themes of their new album, "Get Sinner."

In this episode, Jason opens up about his background, including the challenges of growing up in a religious cult and the impact it had on his creative expression. He reflects on the cathartic process of writing music that addresses his struggles with grief, particularly following the loss of his father, and how this loss influenced the emotional depth of their songs. Listeners will gain insight into how Jason's experiences in both the engineering and music worlds intersect, highlighting the transferable skills that come from managing a DIY band.

The conversation also touches on the importance of community in the music scene, as Jason discusses his involvement with local events like Pug Fest and how he found a supportive network after leaving the church environment. This episode is a powerful testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the healing power of music.

Don't miss this episode as we explore the profound narrative behind Cult Therapy, where personal struggles are transformed into a compelling artistic expression.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Jason from Cult says if you are in a band, put it in your resume

(04:35) This is your first go around with this band

(05:18) You started playing guitar when you were 15. So you started doing stuff in your late teens

(08:22) This record is big to me for so many reasons

(12:35) Um, they're. They're two new songs that have come out

(13:27) You write about your religious trauma on your new album

(16:21) Before cold therapy, what were you doing musically before that

(20:19) Religious marketing. Yes. Yes, very much. So the bigger the church got, the more that took over

(22:09) What are the key components of a, ah, praise band pedal board

(26:08) What was it like diving back into music that ended up making you go

(28:46) The song I'm Fine is about losing my dad, first of all

(31:00) Making this record was extremely cathartic, do you think

(34:08) So you started writing songs. When did you decide that I. A. wanted to become a band

(36:41) The music scene in Michigan is pretty awesome right now

(41:21) The songs resonate outside of the church world for people who didn't grow up

(42:59) Jason: What song would you like me to play from this record

EPISODE 80 of Five At The Door features an engaging conversation with T.J. and Steve from Ghost Town Remedy, two Nashville-based musicians who are making waves in their community. Join us as they share their journey, from their roots in folk music to the evolution of their unique sound and the exciting projects on the horizon.

In this episode, T.J. and Steve discuss the challenges and joys of running their DIY festival, Jorts Festival, and the intricate balance of being artists while managing the demands of life and creative endeavors. They dive into the realities of the music industry, including the pressures of promoting their work in a digital age dominated by social media and streaming platforms. Listeners will gain insights into the complexities of booking shows, touring, and the importance of community within the Nashville music scene.

The conversation also touches on their upcoming album, which promises to explore deeper themes and showcase a more dynamic sound, as they prepare to release their new single, "Doom Scroll." This track encapsulates the chaos of modern life and the struggle to stay connected in an overwhelming digital landscape. Get ready for a candid discussion about the highs and lows of being a musician today, and the passion that drives them to keep creating.

Don't miss this episode as we delve into the vibrant world of Ghost Town Remedy, where creativity and community collide to create something truly special.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Bird flu is working on a new album and touring this month

(03:40) Doing this on the side is kind of a nightmare

(10:08) Mhm. It's totally worth it. Like that 30 minutes on stage is worth the 12 to 24 hours

(11:33) The band is planning a four-date tour with dad Hats

(13:08) Over Wild started playing music in, what, 2012? Yeah, 2011

(15:49) Why did you want to make the drum jump down to Nashville

(19:03) How did you form Dry Spell? Did you do full band or something

(21:47) This was your first tour and you had no idea what you were doing

(25:34) You have been doing Ghost Town for close to a decade

(28:36) What would you say is Nashville missing the most or that it does wrong

(33:22) Going to the End is always a blast. Like it's really crazy to kind of watch the space

(33:55) There's just so many cool places in Nashville to play. I think Nashville wise, especially, I think touring

(37:44) East side bowl has technically three venues. There is the one by the bar

(39:23) You have a new song called Doom Scroll coming out next week

(43:09) Black: I think that's where brain damage comes from with ad overload

(46:42) Have you guys seen the new season of Black Mirror? No, I haven't

(47:16) Everyone needs to go see this movie, everyone, I highly recommend it

(48:36) Black Mary's new album Itself is expected to come out next spring

(51:51) Are you doing, uh. You're y' all are doing this by yourselves through your own record label

(57:25) You have to wait longer to start releasing your singles because Spotify has rules

(01:02:36) I still love when King Gizzard throws just another record of a year

EPISODE 79 of Five At The Door features a heartfelt conversation with Jordan from We're Trying Records as we explore his journey in the music industry and the evolution of his label over the past decade. Join us as Jordan shares his experiences, insights, and the lessons he's learned while navigating the ever-changing landscape of music promotion.

In this episode, Jordan reflects on the challenges and triumphs he has faced since launching We're Trying Records, including the importance of community and collaboration within the DIY music scene. He discusses the impact of social media and streaming platforms on artists and labels, delving into the complexities of virality and the pressures that come with it. Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on how to foster genuine connections with fans and the significance of building a loyal audience in today’s digital age.

The conversation also touches on the importance of authenticity in music, as Jordan shares stories of the artists he's worked with and the creative processes that have shaped their journeys. He emphasizes the need for artists to have "skin in the game" and the reality of balancing day jobs with artistic ambitions, offering practical advice for those looking to make their mark in the industry.

Get ready to hear about the latest release from Can You Not, a project that exemplifies the spirit of creativity and collaboration that Jordan champions. This episode is a celebration of passion, perseverance, and the power of music to bring people together.

Don't miss this episode as we dive into the inspiring world of We're Trying Records, where dedication and artistry collide to create something truly special.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Conan: When you listen to podcasts, do you listen through the ads

(05:06) I'm not a big reader. It takes me, like, forever to get a book done

(06:26) What sparked the whole thing? What was about doing this

(12:49) The Spotify numbers, like trying to get to a thousand like streams

(15:10) Do you think that it's like virality is the big concern right now

(20:37) Now that you're 10 years in, what has changed in the music industry

(24:47) Do you see the business model of like, Spotify, Apple Music as sustainable

(30:03) You see all these platforms starting to like add like video content

(37:16) Like, what's it like? Like balancing your art, like creating music

(41:11) How do you balance your day job and your music career

(47:19) Is it like if you look at like any of the fate. Like, like any famous like uh, production companies

(48:38) I want to play the can you not Song, because that just came out

(49:55) War Train Records is a Nashville-based record label run by Jordan

(53:17) I'm like, you know, if it's going to help the band

EPISODE 78 of Five At The Door features an exhilarating conversation with the members of Contender, an up-and-coming band that blends various genres to create their unique sound. Join us as Taj, Cody, Cole, and Jackson share their musical journey, the evolution of their band, and the challenges they've faced along the way.

In this episode, the band discusses their eclectic influences, ranging from grindcore to shoegaze, and how these diverse sounds shape their music. They reflect on the past two years of their journey, including the ups and downs that have led to the solidification of their lineup and the release of their new single, "Under My Skin." The conversation dives into the creative process behind their songwriting, highlighting how each member contributes their distinct musical ideas to craft songs that resonate with their collective vision.

Listeners will gain insight into the personal experiences that have shaped the band, including the impact of previous musical endeavors and the serendipitous moments that brought them together. The episode also touches on the importance of collaboration and the growth that comes from navigating the unpredictable nature of the music industry.

Get ready to hear "Under My Skin," a track that encapsulates the band's journey and the themes of resilience and creativity that define their sound. This episode is a celebration of the power of music to connect, inspire, and evolve.

Don't miss this episode as we explore the vibrant world of Contender, where passion and artistry collide to create something truly special.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Everyone introduce yourselves and what you. What genre do you guys want to say you are

(01:18) Five at the Door interviews Contender for its 75th episode

(04:21) Jackson: I've been making music solo since 2018 sometime around

(06:56) Cole Jackson says being in two bands allows him to explore other musical possibilities

(12:34) Final Destination's first album was derailed by a freak tornado in 2025

(19:42) It's getting absurd. It's getting to the point where it's unsafe

(20:54) The camera froze in the weirdest way. It did not, it did not stop recording

(21:30) Where did you come up with the name Contender? I love it

(23:53) Who is the principal songwriter for Postmodern Therapy

(30:30) Under My Skin by Contender releases May 30th

(30:58) What does the rest of this year look like? When is this release

EPISODE 77 of Five At The Door features an intimate conversation with Charles from Sea of Cars as we explore his musical journey, inspirations, and the evolution of his band. Join us as Charles shares his deep-rooted passion for music, tracing back to his early influences, including the iconic band Hum, and how their sound continues to resonate within his own artistic endeavors.

In this episode, Charles reflects on his introduction to music through his father's love for alternative radio and the pivotal moments that shaped his identity as a musician. He discusses the formation of Sea of Cars, the creative process behind their music, and the challenges of being a two-piece band. Listeners will gain insight into the dynamics of songwriting, collaboration, and the importance of experimentation in crafting their sound.

The conversation also delves into the emotional aspects of being a musician, including the balance between personal life and artistic ambition, and the realities of navigating the music industry. Charles candidly shares his experiences with imposter syndrome and the pressures that come with promoting music in today's digital landscape.

Get ready to hear "Withered Trees," the title track from Sea of Cars' latest album, which encapsulates the themes of growth, resilience, and the complexities of life as an artist. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of creativity, connection, and the journey of making music that matters.

Don't miss this episode as we dive into the world of Sea of Cars, where passion and authenticity collide to create something truly special.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) My first inspiration in music was this band called Hum

(04:36) Listen to this. It's awesome. I'm obsessed with it. The vocals are so pulled back in the mix

(09:08) Scott Bama says his dad helped him build his first guitar

(12:50) I first heard Rush when I was 17 years old

(18:18) There's a democratic process of, like, people pushing things through

(22:17) When you play it live, you don't use a baritone guitar

(26:07) Do you think being a two piece enhances the creativity of your writing

(31:44) AS95 is winding down like in between album cycles

(37:33) She opened our first show for us, which was a holiday drive

(41:08) This is not my nine to five, man. It's still a creative endeavor

(45:46) Once you hit that sweet spot, maybe everything starts gaining traction

(49:48) How do I get more traction? How do I do this thing

(50:11) I regret not being more prioritizing money towards Sea of Cars financially

(56:16) The one after that Beat Kitchen show with sincere engineer opening for us. We opened for Lobby Boxer in a basement

(57:55) Nine Minutes to Montrose is easily our most popular song

EPISODE 76 of Five At The Door features a captivating conversation with Daniel from Great White Nothing as we delve into the depths of his musical journey and the release of his latest album, "A Shout into the Void." Join us as Daniel shares his experiences in the world of progressive rock, reflecting on the influences that have shaped his unique sound and vocal style.

In this episode, Daniel recounts his early days in the band Omnipresent and the transformative moments that led him to embrace a more profound artistic expression. He discusses the impact of listening to bands like Marillion and Kevin Gilbert, which reignited his passion for songwriting and helped him navigate personal challenges. Listeners will gain insight into the creative process behind Great White Nothing's music, including the collaborative efforts that brought their latest album to life as a trio.

The conversation also explores the thematic depth of "A Shout into the Void," addressing the complexities of contemporary society and the emotional weight of witnessing global suffering. Daniel shares his thoughts on the importance of authenticity in music and the desire to connect with listeners on a personal level. The album's tracks, including "Utopia" and "Chain of Command," serve as reflections on community, compassion, and the human experience.

Get ready to hear "Chain of Command," a standout track that encapsulates the essence of Daniel's artistic vision and the themes discussed in this episode. This episode is a celebration of creativity, resilience, and the power of music to inspire change.

Don't miss this episode as we dive into the thought-provoking world of Great White Nothing, where artistry and intellect intertwine to create something truly special.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Daniel from Great White Nothing has released a new album

(01:49) You have a very unique voice. I'm not sure if anyone's ever told you that

(07:14) Kevin Bean's latest album is a rock opera that's autobiographical

(10:05) Do you find intellectualism a good replacement for empty emptiness from post faith

(15:34) What is it about Prague music that keeps you attracted to it

(21:51) I love jazz anyway, and it's, it's so much fun

(23:01) The recurring thing that brings me back to progressive music is authenticity

(28:23) There are two Hymns for Hungry Spirits albums. Both albums are complimentary

(29:34) Hymns for Hungry Spirits comes from desire and longing and pain

(34:37) XLR is gearing up for a small east coast tour

(38:42) What is your standard of success? Yeah, your standard is what matters

(41:28) What would you say are the big themes of this record

(48:03) Working together, communicating and teaming up with each other is how we survive

(49:58) I'm hoping to go work at a warehouse somewhere and just shut my brain off

(53:27) I want to play a song from, uh. From y' all. We could do Utopia or one that I particularly love

(54:12) Professor Graham, thank you so much for joining us today. It was such a pleasure

EPISODE 75 of Five At The Door features an enlightening conversation with Jake from Counter Intuitive Records as we explore the evolution of his DIY record label and the exciting journey of opening a brick-and-mortar store. Join us as Jake shares his passion for music, the challenges he faced in the industry, and the joy of creating a space that reflects his artistic vision.

In this episode, Jake discusses the initial goals of Counter Intuitive Records, focusing on collaborating with unique bands and producing vinyl that he could proudly endorse. He reflects on the pivotal moments that led to the decision to establish a physical store, emphasizing the importance of community and face-to-face interactions in an increasingly digital world. Listeners will gain insight into the inner workings of a record label, including the value of connections with booking agents and distribution networks, and how these relationships can help artists thrive.

The conversation also touches on the current landscape of music promotion, particularly the role of social media platforms like TikTok in discovering new talent. Jake candidly shares his experiences navigating the complexities of modern marketing while remaining true to his DIY roots. He highlights the significance of authenticity in music and the satisfaction that comes from supporting artists he genuinely believes in.

Get ready to hear a track from Origami Angel's acclaimed album "Somewhere City," a testament to the creative spirit that drives Counter Intuitive Records. This episode is a celebration of resilience, creativity, and the power of music to connect us all.

Don't miss this episode as we delve into the vibrant world of DIY music, the challenges of running a record label, and the exciting future that lies ahead for Jake and Counter Intuitive Records.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Good morning, everyone. I have Jake from Counterintuitive Records with me

(00:13) So what's cool about you and I've been trying to do this is that you run the store

(00:48) Counterintuitive Records is one of the bigger diy record labels

(04:21) The relationship that you have with Sony is interesting

(07:45) Asian Man Records and Jeff Rosenstock paved the way for independent music

(11:51) Origami angel opened his first store in Boston last month

(17:12) Now that you have a physical space, you can venture into more things

(21:27) Congratulations on the success of your record label and on everything else

(24:56) When you're trying to find new bands or you find some kind of thing

(27:13) M. Best: There's something fundamentally missing from old Internet like that

(36:15) I'm always intrigued of what music will look like in 2020

(41:30) Jake, congratulations on 10 years running your record label. What would you want to tell yourself 10 years ago

EPISODE 74 of Five At The Door features an engaging conversation with Jimmy Montague as we dive into his multifaceted journey in the music world. Based in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, Jimmy shares his experiences as a musician, photographer, and collaborator, revealing the intricate web of projects he's involved in, from his work with Taking Meds to his latest rock endeavor, Pretty Rude.

In this episode, Jimmy discusses his artistic evolution, touching on the influences that shaped his sound, including classic rock elements reminiscent of bands like The Cars and Fountains of Wayne. He reflects on the creative process behind Pretty Rude's new record, highlighting the importance of experimentation and structure in songwriting. Listeners will gain insight into his approach to music, including the balance between spontaneity and meticulous planning, and the joy of collaboration with talented musicians.

The conversation delves into the significance of the studio environment, where Jimmy has honed his skills not only as a musician but also as a documentarian of the creative process. He shares his passion for archival work, emphasizing the value of capturing the behind-the-scenes moments that often go unnoticed in the music industry.

Get ready to hear "The Work," a standout track from Pretty Rude that encapsulates the essence of Jimmy's journey and the themes discussed in this episode. This song reflects his current mindset and the evolution of his artistry.

Whether you're a musician navigating your own path or a fan exploring the depths of creativity, this episode offers a rich tapestry of insights into the life of an artist dedicated to his craft.

Don't miss this episode as we explore the vibrant landscape of music, creativity, and the connections that shape our experiences.

Show notes penned by your favorite chronicler of the musical journey at Five At The Door.

(00:00) Good morning. Welcome to the podcast. Yeah, thanks for having me

(00:26) You've been making rock music for, like, a really long time

(03:46) Pretty Rude is an eclectic record with lots of different musical forms

(09:22) Do you come from like a music theory background? Um, kind of

(15:29) What do you think New York brings into your music as well

(18:24) I work part time at a theater in Manhattan and then I help Billy out at studio

(23:34) Pretty Rude at Two Worlds was recorded at a New Hampshire studio

(27:44) Yalls record Taking Meds made my top 20 of last year

(33:26) You've worked in so many studios over your career

(35:37) The minute this work is done, I lose my mind

(42:48) I'm working on, like, a compiled interview with all of them

(48:55) Wilco: I don't really have a gripe with DV trend

(53:38) If you never toured again, would that be like the thing

(59:00) What song would you like to hear on the new record

(59:46) All right. So do your thing. Um, have a wonderful rest of your day, and we'll talk to you soon(

02:30) The journey through New England and settling in Brooklyn

(10:15) The creative process behind Pretty Rude

(20:45) Influences and inspirations for the new record

(30:00) The importance of structure in songwriting

(40:00) Archival work and its significance in music

(50:30) Balancing spontaneity and planning in the studio

(01:00:00) The impact of live shows and the future of performing

(01:10:30) Closing thoughts and playing "The Work"