In this week's episode Frans Alkemade, Brad Stokes, and Jay Hrcsko sit down with Dr. Lambda himself, Christian Clausen to discuss his book Five Lines of Code.  Just because you're not a software engineer doesn't mean you can't understand the importance of refactoring.  Enjoy! Christian's Links:   If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a review, a rating, or leave comments on iTunes, Stitcher or your podcasting platform of choice. It really helps others find us.  Much thanks to the artist from who provided us our outro music free-of-charge!  If you like what you heard, to find more music you might enjoy! If you’d like to join the discussion and share your stories  please join Looking for real-time interaction and conversation with other practitioners?  Jump into the fray at our We at the Agile Uprising are committed to being totally free.  However if you'd like to contribute and help us defray hosting and production costs we do have a .  Who knows, you might even get some surprises in the mail!