41% of people who make over $200k per year still cry about money. That’s the finding of a recent study that Paul discusses this week with Joe Saul-Sehy, Creator and co-host of the Stacking Benjamins podcast AND author of Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Management. These two handsome bald fellas also chat about:

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