Republican Governor Ron DeSantis takes a victory lap as Florida’s COVID cases surge. Brian interviews Lt. Colonel Alexander Vindman about the infamous Trump-Ukraine phone call that he listened in on, which led to Trump’s impeachment; whether he sees a link between how Republicans treated him and how Republicans treated the Capitol Police after January 6; and his thoughts on Trump running for president in 2024. And New York Times op-ed contributing writer Kara Swisher joins to discuss disinformation on both Fox News and Facebook.

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Written by Brian Tyler Cohen

Produced by Sam Graber

Recorded in Los Angeles, CA

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