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Steve Pereira - Co-Author of "Flow Engineering" & Principal Consultant at Visible Flow Consulting
Andrew Davis - Co-Author of "Flow Engineering" & Founder at Institute for Transformational Leadership

RESOURCES
Steve
https://x.com/steveelsewhere
https://github.com/stevepereira
https://www.linkedin.com/in/devopsto
https://stevepereira.ca

Andrew
https://x.com/andrewdavis_io
https://github.com/abd3
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewdavis-io
https://www.andrewdavis.io

Links
https://flowcollective.org

DESCRIPTION
Flow Engineering co-authors Steve Pereira and Andrew Davis discuss their approach to improving workflow visibility in software development and knowledge work. They explore how value stream mapping can be adapted for modern digital work environments, where the work is largely invisible compared to manufacturing settings.

The authors explain their five-map framework designed to help teams establish clarity, improve collaboration, and enhance productivity despite busy schedules and constant firefighting. They emphasize the importance of visual collaboration to create shared mental models and the continuing relevance of these practices in an AI-driven future.

RECOMMENDED BOOKS
Steve Pereira & Andrew Davis • Flow Engineering
Andrew Davis • Mastering Salesforce DevOps
Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies
Charles Humble • Professional Skills for Software Engineers
Simon Wardley • Wardley Mapping, The Knowledge
Simon Wardley • Wardley Maps

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