For most of us, family is complicated. While many of us have happy memories and special bonds with people in our family, there are also cycles of pain, experiences of abandonment, and other brokenness that pervades our family life as well. 

In this episode, we had the pleasure of talking with Fred Hartsook (one of the wisest and funniest people we know #bestcombo) about his story as it relates to family, forgiveness, boundaries, and reconciliation. Fred’s vulnerability makes way for us to examine the nuances of our own stories, and collide with Jesus in the midst of one of the most difficult and beautiful parts of our lives - family.