Sun-Times City Hall reporter Fran Spielman is joined by Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara. Catanzara argued that the sympathetic remarks he made to WBEZ-FM Radio were made after he had watched television coverage of the Capitol siege for only 30 minutes—before the damage, destruction and deaths had been revealed. Also discussed, the recently passed criminal justice reform bill and Catanzara's take on how anonymous complaints and eliminating cash bail will affect policing. 

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