The criminal punishment system is institutionalized dehumanization. It's organized violence congealed, concentrated, and out of control. The everyday disposal of living human beings is normalized in these spaces—in the name of humanity and solidarity we refuse to become accustomed, and we resist accommodation. We’re joined in conversation with two dazzling thinkers and brave activists, Renaldo Hudson, Education Director of the Illinois Prison Project and the inaugural Artist for the People at the Pozen Center Human Rights Lab, and Alice Kim, the Director of the Pozen Center Human Rights Lab at the University of Chicago.

Transition music from Dr. Sparkles’ song Great Bus Journeys of the West Midlands Pt 2 from the album “The War on Drugs.” © License. Disclaimer.  Additional music from Gus O'Connor.