In this episode, David Savage speaks with Jack McCauley, legendary hardware innovator, co-founder of Oculus, and creator behind Guitar Hero’s iconic controller. Jack shares what it takes to survive and thrive in hardware—from million-selling hits to failed camera startups. He reflects on Meta’s struggles with VR, why hardware investment is so fraught, and how he’s now applying the same curiosity and engineering mindset to global clean water challenges. A frank, insightful conversation that explores the creative grit behind invention—and why true innovation rarely comes on the first try.

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