Matt and Joe walk around Nine Elms and talk about character.

Matt talks about Anselm Kiefer, Karl Ove Knausgård, and getting sentimental as you get older.

Matt speaks to Rebecca about going back to old ways of making and revisiting old ideas.

Matt talks about writing a proposal and how it helped him think about his work.

Matt and Ross talk about proximity in art while Ross walks around M&S to get out of the wind.

Matt talks about embarrassment as an important, but volatile, feeling in education.

Matt talks about how the more you study art, the less you’ll be paid.

Matt talks about an article by Greta Olson called ‘Reconsidering Unreliability: Fallible and Untrustworthy Narrators’ and comes up with his own categories of untrustworthy authors and unreliable readers.

Matt writes about a drainage issue and talks about different kinds of sublime.

Matt tries to describe Fugue Chat as a performance project that exists as a podcast.