Matt and Ross talk about the feeling of being relieve. Content warning: Matt mentions the genocide in Palestine near the end of the podcast.

Matt talks about finding a radio show he likes.

Matt speaks to Sophie about ambivalence and what it means to leave the art world.

Matt talks about some shims that stopped his toilet from wobbling from 2018-2025.

Matt speaks about being ambivalent towards art and how he has never been very good at being reverent.

Matt talks about being tired and how boring it is when someone tells you about how tired they are.

Matt talks about the very private, and ultimately meaningless feeling of Déjà vu.

Matt talks about the behaviours he has inherited from his dad.

Matt and Sophie talking about being 40. But there’s a twist! It turns out Sophie isn’t actually 40! How old is she? Listen to find out…

Matt and Ross talk about festivals, and how they feel about the music they listened to as teenagers.