Fugue Chat

Matt speaks to Chloe about giving up performance.

Matt puts away some crockery and talks about another failed attempt to buy something.

Matt talks about deciding whether to buy things, and the practical and logistical affordances of different ways of buying things online or irl.

Matt talks about how he often feels bad when he gets critical feedback, but how that seems to be a necessary part of the process of absorbing and integrating that feedback into his work.

Matt talks about Robert Ryman’s time as a museum guard at MOMA, his own time as a gallery assistant at Whitechapel Gallery, and the particular relationship between museum staff and the artwork on display.

Matt talks about seeing the Ana Mendieta exhibition at Tate Modern in London, and while getting a lot from the show, how he felt various layers of embarrassment while viewing it.

Matt talks about realising that he doesn’t live in London anymore.

Matt lays on the couch and speaks about the different experiences of getting his weekly shop delivered by Waitrose vs Ocado.

Matt talks about ear wax and other bodily materials. CW: ear wax, colonic irrigation, Matt couldn’t remember the term ‘colonic irrigation’ so at one point he says the words ‘tube up your bum’

Matt starts talking about the ethics of open calls, but then realises he’s really talking about the ideology of open calls. n.b Matt forgets the name of the US artist Andrea Fraser