Matt talks about coming to the end of his PhD and not wanting to explain himself anymore.

Matt talks about the writer Rachel Cusk and what art can know.

Matt drives to a Chinese takeaway and talks about Isabelle Graw’s article ‘Talk ‘Til You Drop: The Art Conversation and the Communication Imperative,’, from Mousse magazine, first published in 2006.

Matt puts the washing out and talks about a man he saw digging a hole on a Cornish beach.

Matt talks about taking the weather personally and what Alanis Morissette was singing about if she wasn’t singing about irony.

Matt talks about two video works, ‘House Dances’ (2007) by Maren Hassinger and ‘Dad’s Stick’ (2012) by John Smith which through their deployment of various filmic techniques (performance, speech, on screen text, editing, sequencing and montage) constitute their on screen objects as sculptures.

Matt drives to the station and talks about the virtual, the actual, the real, the true, the immediate and the mediated.

Matt talks about trying to remember, and then slowly remembering, the Dr. Evil monologue about his childhood from the Austin Powers film. I got the monologue from this amazing old website: https://www.whysanity.net/monos/

Matt talks about trying to look at his phone less.

Matt and Ross meet at London Liverpool Street for the second in an occasional series of episodes from the station. This time we wander around the Whole Foods Market on Blomfield Street, but we begin with Ross showing Matt how to fold up a Brompton bike.