Matt talks about the time he had to hold a door open for Prince William.

Matt describes a fantasy about winning the lottery being interrupted, but also sustained, by detailed planning around the administration and accounting of such a win.

Matt looks for a VC5 document while he talks about ‘lottery mindset’ or ‘lottery mentality’ which is an attitude predicated on the fantasy of getting a lucky break which somehow fixes your life or resolves all of your problems.

Matt and Dan talk about anecdotes in relation to Dan’s idea of neurotransgression. The article Dan wrote about neurotransgression is here: Daniel Oliver. ‘Live Art and Neurotransgression’. Contemporary Theatre Review 34, no. 3 (2024): 280–89. https://doi.org/10.1080/10486801.2024.2388027.

Matt and Rebecca walk, and then drive, while they talk about unfinished artworks of different kinds, including Le Crocrodrome de Zig & Puce by Niki de Saint Phalle and Jean Tinguely from 1977, and Anthony McCall’s failed artwork, Column, from 2012. n.b Matt says McCall received £100,000 of funding, but the true figure was around £535,000.

Matt talks about ants.

Matt talks about the American actor and writer Spalding Gray. Gray deployed the anecdote form across his performances and writing, but for this episode, Matt looks at the piece Gray wrote for the photographer Randal Levenson’s book, In Search of the Monkey Girl from 1982.

Matt and Ross talk about bin collections.

Matt talks about different moments at which he feels more or less able to find the right words.

Matt talks about a weird feeling he had while watching the 2021 Beatles documentary, The Beatles: Get Back. (Matt probably calls it Let it Be in the podcast which is the name of the film from 1970 where lots of the footage comes from.)