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Full Interview w/ Jared Moskowitz - Should Democrats “Fight Fire With Fire” Against Trump?


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Florida Democratic Congressman Jared Moskowitz joins Chuck Todd with a stark assessment of American politics: bipartisanship is dead, foreign interference has poisoned public discourse, and Democrats face an existential choice between fighting dirty or facing potential party destruction. Moskowitz, who represents Parkland and witnessed multiple system failures during that tragic shooting, argues that Trump's second term has fundamentally changed Democrats who now face primary voters demanding fighters while swing voters want uniters—an impossible contradiction that reflects deeper dysfunction where politicians receive no political reward for solving problems. He warns that increased gerrymandering from both parties will worsen congressional dysfunction while big tech companies have created a discourse environment where TikTok operates as a "psyop weapon" showing endless Gaza content while ignoring Uyghur genocide, demonstrating how public opinion gets manipulated by algorithms designed for engagement rather than truth.

The conversation reveals a politician grappling with impossible strategic calculations as Florida officially becomes a red state through Trump-driven demographic shifts and COVID-era political realignment, while Democrats debate whether moderates should fall in line when progressives win or continue prioritizing electability over ideological purity. Moskowitz's insights into Israel's "generational reputational damage" and the effectiveness of Trump's intimidation politics—where physical threats cause Republican senators to cave—illustrate how normal democratic processes have been weaponized into permanent warfare. Looking ahead, he warns that Democratic failure in midterms could destroy the party entirely, while practical governance challenges like FEMA's disaster response capabilities face deliberate sabotage from a White House that realizes competent federal agencies undermine their political narrative, leaving states unable to handle hurricane logistics independently as climate disasters intensify.

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00:00 Congressman Jared Moskowitz joins the Chuck Toddcast

01:30 As a Dem, could you ever get a job in a 2nd term DeSantis admin?

02:45 The days of bipartisanship are long gone

04:00 Why not stand on principle in the redistricting fight?

05:00 The Democratic base wants to fight fire with fire

06:00 Trump’s second term has changed the Democrats

07:15 Primary voters want a fighter, swing voters want a uniter

08:00 More gerrymander will increase dysfunction in congress

10:30 Both parties moved away from each other after cold war

11:15 Foreign interference in American discourse has been effective

12:45 DeSantis hasn’t succeeded in repealing Florida’s red flag laws

14:15 Stopping school/mass shootings requires an “all of the above” approach

16:15 There’s no political reward for bipartisanship and solving problems

18:15 There were multiple points of failure in Parkland shooting

20:00 Public discourse is at the mercy of five giant tech companies 

20:45 TikTok is a psyop weapon 

22:45 TikTok shows Gaza content, but nothing about the Uyghurs 

24:00 Restrictions government should place on social media/internet 

25:15 The big tech lobby has become one of the strongest 

27:30 Bipartisan support for internet regulations to protect kids 

29:15 The Democratic party is losing the nuance on Israel 

30:30 Social media has juiced coverage in Gaza, ignored other conflicts

 32:45 Israel is doing generational reputational damage 

35:30 Physical threats have caused Republican senators to cave 

36:45 Trump's intimidation politics work effectively 

37:45 Majority of Americans want to cut off aid to Israel 

39:00 Will Israel be a true voting issue? 

41:30 Populations move to the right after being attacked 

42:30 Covid led to Republican dominance in Florida 

46:00 Florida is officially a red state 

47:15 Democrats have policy fights, Republicans have personality fights 

48:45 When progressives win, should the moderates get on board? 

49:45 Democrats have to value electability over purity 

51:15 The power of strong political communication skills 

52:00 Any interest in a Florida senate run? 

53:15 Trump's presence created big rightward shift in Palm Beach county 

54:30 Potential to be gerrymandered out of your seat? 

55:30 If Democrats don't win in midterms it could destroy the party 

56:45 Democrats can't unilaterally disarm in gerrymandering war 

58:15 Trump's cover up of Epstein is openly blatant 

1:00:45 What will FEMA response look like when a hurricane hits? 

1:02:45 States can't handle disaster logistics without FEMA 

1:07:30 White House realizes FEMA will become a problem 

1:09:00 Some of the people around Trump are worse than him

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