Fund Shack Private Equity Podcast

Fund Shack Private Equity Podcast

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  • How machines will transform private capital markets | Ep. 83

    Can algorithms already outperform human decision-making in private equity?

    In this episode of Private Markets Podcast, Fund Shack www.fund-shack.com, Ross Butler speaks with Oliver Gottschalg, Professor at HEC Paris and founder of Gottschalg Analytics, about how machine learning is already reshaping private equity fund selection and secondaries pricing.


    Drawing on more than 25 years of empirical research and extensive real-world back-testing, Gottschalg explains why algorithmic decision support can improve outcomes using the same opportunity sets LPs invest in today. The discussion explores why private markets may be structurally better suited to machine learning than public markets, where human judgement still matters, and how lower-cost, more scalable private equity products could emerge.


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    Topics covered include:

    • How machine learning can outperform “normal” private equity allocation decisions
    • What conservative back-testing on real LP portfolios reveals
    • Why private equity secondaries pricing remains inefficient
    • The limits of explainability and the rise of predictive decision-making
    • How humans should interact with algorithms as downside governors, not alpha generators
    • What this means for LPs, GPs and the future cost of liquidity in private markets


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    Guest:

    Oliver Gottschalg, Professor of Strategy and Business Policy at HEC Paris, Director of the HEC Private Equity Certificate, and Founder of Gottschalg Analytics.


    🌐 Gottschalg Analytics: https://www.gottschalg.com/🔗

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-gottschalg-b53b6261/


    Host: Ross Butler, Founder and Host Fund Shack

    🌐 www.fund-shack.com

    🔗 CONNECT on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/


    📘 Order Ross Butler’s book


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    ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian#investlikeabarbarian


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    About Fund ShackPrivate Markets Podcast, Fund Shack www.fund-shack.comExplores private equity, private credit, infrastructure, secondaries and private wealth access through long-form, technical conversations with leading practitioners and thinkers.


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    45 min
  • Evergreen Funds, Private Credit and the Information Problem | Cyril Demaria-Bengochea

    In this episode of the Private Markets Podcast, Fund Shack, Ross Butler is joined by Cyril Demaria-Bengochea, Head of Private Market Strategy at Julius Baer and Associate Professor at EDHEC Business School.


    Cyril brings a rare combination of academic rigour and practical industry insight, shaped by his work with institutional investors, private banks, regulators, and industry bodies including Invest Europe and ILPA. Together, Ross and Cyril unpack what is really changing in private markets, why innovation is accelerating despite slower fundraising and exits, and why information quality, not liquidity or leverage, is now the industry’s biggest constraint.


    The discussion explores how continuation funds have moved rapidly into the mainstream, why evergreen structures have become central to private-wealth portfolios, and where the real risks sit beneath commonly used labels like “semi-liquid”. Cyril also offers a measured, data-driven view on private credit, arguing that its growth reflects capital filling the void left by regional banks rather than an unchecked expansion of systemic risk.


    The episode goes on to examine listed versus unlisted private equity, the limits of trading private shares without public-market disclosure, and how private markets increasingly compete with fixed income rather than public equities in long-term portfolio construction.


    This is a technical, practitioner-focused conversation for allocators, advisers, wealth managers, and professionals navigating private markets at scale.



    Topics covered include: Evergreen private equity funds, continuation vehicles and GP-led secondaries, private credit and direct lending, portfolio construction for private wealth, listed private equity vs unlisted structures, liquidity and redemption risk, transparency and due diligence, AI and venture capital cycles, and the role of information in market discipline.



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    Cyril Demaria-Bengochea

    Head of Private Market Strategy at Julius Baer

    Associate Professor at EDHEC Business School

    Author and advisor to Invest Europe, ILPA, and the European Commission

    🌐 https://www.juliusbaer.com/international/en/our-solutions/investing/other-solutions-and-products/private-markets-offering/


    🔗 CONNECT on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/cyril-demaria/



    Ross Butler

    Founder and Host Fund Shack

    🌐 www.fund-shack.com

    🔗 CONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/


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    📘 Order Ross Butler’s book


    👉 Invest Like a Barbarian: Share in the spoils of the Private Markets revolution


    ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian


    🎬Meet the Author webinars

    https://l.ead.me/BarbarianWebinar

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    Fund Shack is a podcast exploring private equity, venture capital, private credit, infrastructure and real assets, through in-depth conversations with the investors, founders and thought leaders shaping the future of private markets.


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    53 min
  • Private Equity Myths vs Reality: Jobs, Housing and 401(k)s | Will Dunham American Investment Council

    Will Dunham, President and CEO of the American Investment Council, joins Fund Shack to unpack one of the most misunderstood debates in modern finance: the real economic impact of private equity and private credit in the United States.


    We explore how private capital supports 13 million American jobs, why online narratives around housing and healthcare often diverge from the data, and how private equity is funding manufacturing reshoring, AI infrastructure and national security. We also examine the policy shift opening 401(k) retirement plans to alternative investments, the controversy around private credit and systemic risk, and the broader question of whether private capital remains aligned with everyday Americans.


    Topics include:

    🔹private equity in US housing

    🔹build-to-rent supply

    🔹rent-to-own models

    🔹healthcare access and innovation

    🔹 the growth of private credit

    🔹Federal Reserve research on systemic risk

    🔹the shrinking US public markets

    🔹pension fund returns

    🔹the diversification challenge for retirement savers

    🔹the SEC private fund adviser rule

    🔹the political dynamics shaping private capital's licence to operate.



    For investors, advisers, policymakers and allocators seeking a clear view of how private markets actually function on Main Street, this episode offers grounded analysis rather than headlines.


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    Thank you to our episode partner, Brookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services.


    For more information, visit: www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industry


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    💼 Learn more at: Will Dunham President and Chief Executive Officer

    🌐 www.investmentcouncil.org

    CONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/dunhamwill/


    Ross Butler

    Founder and Host Fund Shack

    🌐 www.fund-shack.com


    CONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/


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    📘 Pre-order Ross Butler’s book


    👉 Invest Like a Barbarian: Share in the spoils of the Private Markets revolution


    ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian#investlikeabarbarian


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    Fund Shack is the private equity podcast with in-depth conversations with investors, founders, and thought leaders shaping the future of private markets.


    🔗 More episodes www.fund-shack.com


    📩 Subscribe to our Substack:

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    35 min
  • Brookfield: The private markets giant that flies below the radar

    Ross Butler speaks with David Nowak, President of Brookfield’s Private Equity Group. David leads Brookfield’s North American private equity business and its evergreen strategy. He brings a contrarian, operations-led viewpoint shaped by more than a decade working across one of the world’s most integrated alternative-investment platforms.


    We explore how Brookfield focuses on essential-service businesses that are misunderstood, how it leverages information advantages drawn from its global infrastructure, real estate, renewables and energy-transition platforms, and why its dual-sponsorship model between investors and operators produces repeatable value creation across market cycles.


    Brookfield’s approach is not thematic. Instead, it targets situations where perceived risk diverges from actual risk. David discusses the Westinghouse acquisition as an example: nuclear power was deeply out of favour, yet Brookfield’s renewables team demonstrated it remained indispensable to regional power grids. Operational work then doubled EBITDA. A similar framework guided the acquisition of Clarios, where market consensus around electric vehicles failed to reflect realistic adoption rates and operational improvement opportunities.


    A large part of Brookfield’s private equity model centres on operations. Around 35 senior operators sit directly inside the investment floor, and every deal is jointly owned by an investor and an operator from diligence through exit. Over half of Brookfield’s private equity returns have come from operational improvement, not leverage. Investment professionals also spend a year inside a portfolio company before promotion, building practical judgement that informs decision-making back at headquarters.


    David also unpacks Brookfield’s exit discipline, the benefits of long-dated and permanent capital, and why resilient, essential-service companies tend to attract strategic buyers regardless of market cycles. Finally, he discusses culture, humility and career progression, offering grounded advice for young professionals entering private markets.


    Key themes

    • Contrarian investing and misunderstood essential-service businesses
    • Information advantage across Brookfield’s multi-platform global footprint
    • The pilot / co-pilot model between investors and operators
    • Operational value creation and secondments into portfolio companies
    • EBITDA improvement through pricing, supply-chain and organisational work
    • Evergreen capital, strategic exits and long-hold flexibility
    • Culture, apprenticeship and career development in private equity


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    💼 Learn more at:

    🌐 www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industry


    David Nowak: https://www.brookfield.com/about-us/leadership/david-nowak


    Brookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services.


    Ross Butler: Founder and Host Fund Shack


    🌐 www.fund-shack.com


    CONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/


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    📘 Pre-order Ross Butler’s book


    👉 Invest Like a Barbarian: Share in the spoils of the Private Markets revolution


    ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian


    #investlikeabarbarian


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    Fund Shack is the private capital podcast with in-depth conversations with investors, founders, and thought leaders shaping the future of private markets.

    Its were Private Markets meets private Wealth.


    📩 Subscribe to our Substack: https://privateequitypodcastfundshack.substack.com/


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    00:00 Why Brookfield avoids thematic investing

    01:00 Evolution of Brookfield’s PE strategy

    03:00 Essential-services focus; 06:00 Dual-sponsorship model

    09:00 Integrated open-floor culture

    12:00 Westinghouse case

    15:00 Operational EBITDA gains

    18:00 Investor secondments

    20:00 Clarios and EV cycles

    24:00 PE in higher rates

    28:00 Strategic exits

    31:00 Alignment and pricing discipline

    33:00 Culture and apprenticeship

    35:00 Career guidance

    38:00 Closing reflections


    39 min
  • Creative destruction and the making of the modern world, with Jack Weatherford

    Anthropologist and best-selling author Jack Weatherford, whose Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World redefined how we view empire and innovation, joins Ross Butler to explore how the Mongol world prefigured today’s private equity model.


    When the Mongols swept across Eurasia in the thirteenth century, they destroyed old orders, but they also built new ones. In this conversation, Jack Weatherford explains how Genghis Khan combined conquest with institution-building, creating a meritocratic system that elevated productivity and aligned incentives in a way that modern investors would recognise.


    We discuss how Mongol queens managed ortōq enterprises, private trading ventures that resemble early forms of private equity, how religious freedom became the first international law, and how the empire’s census, taxation and communication systems created transparency across continents.


    As the empire matured, Kublai Khan’s experiments with paper money, movable type and naval technology expanded global trade and spread ideas that helped ignite the European Renaissance. The discussion links thirteenth-century portfolio thinking to today’s private markets, showing why creative destruction only endures when creation wins.


    0:00 Creative destruction and leadership
    1:26 Learning loops, humility and meritocracy
    3:56 Parallels with private equity ownership
    10:22 Building value through safety and trade
    15:02 Census, taxation and the power of numbers
    16:21 Queens as capital allocators – the ortōq system
    19:19 Religious freedom as economic policy
    26:59 A family-office view of the known world
    31:49 Kublai Khan’s operating model
    37:36 Paper money and the limits of fiat
    45:02 Global trade and early financial flows
    46:05 Europe’s asymmetric gains from knowledge transfer
    52:13 Technology recombination in warfare
    58:12 Naval trebuchets and siege innovation
    1:01:27 Horse economies and resilience
    1:05:22 Genghis Khan’s Western intellectual legacy
    1:08:16 Enduring principles for modern investors


    Jack Weatherford is an anthropologist, historian and author of Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World and The History of Money. His work explores how ideas, trade and governance evolved across civilisations and how they continue to shape modern institutions.

    📘 Read Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World:


    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Genghis-Khan-Making-Modern-World/dp/0609809644


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    Ross ButlerFounder and Host Fund Shack

    🌐 www.fund-shack.com

    CONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/


    📘 Pre-order Ross Butler’s book


    👉 Invest Like a Barbarian: Share in the spoils of the Private Markets revolution


    ♾️ http://q-r.to/Invest-Like-A-Barbarian



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    Fund Shack is the private equity podcast with in-depth conversations with investors, founders, and thought leaders shaping the future of private markets.


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    1 hr 9 min
  • Fintech, Agentic AI & the Future of Financial Services | Apis Partners: Uday Goyal & Matteo Stefanel | Episode #78

    Ross Butler speaks with Matteo Stefanel and Udayan (“Uday”) Goyal, Co-Founders and Managing Partners of Apis Partners, one of the world’s leading growth-equity investors in financial technology.



    Founded in 2014, Apis Partners has built a global fintech franchise by applying M&A discipline to private equity: identify the likely acquirers first, then build the company to fit their strategic blueprint. In this conversation, Matteo and Uday explain how they turned two decades of deal-making experience, from DLJ and Deutsche Bank to advising on Visa, Mastercard, and Worldpay into one of the most distinctive investment models in growth capital.


    They discuss:

    • How Apis built credibility as a first-time fund manager, raising $290m at launch and scaling to a multi-fund global platform.

    • The importance of the network as an asset, relationships forged over 20 years now drive sourcing, diligence, talent, and exits.

    • “Exit-first” investing, designing portfolio companies around known strategic buyers and building to a defined market demand.

    • Why 2025 marks the most disruptive moment in financial services history, as stablecoins, micropayments, and decentralised rails reshape how money moves.

    • The rise of agentic AI, where your personal financial assistant will soon negotiate directly with your bank’s AI.

    • Embedded finance and the subscription economy, from iPhones to autos, where distribution and customer ownership, not balance sheet, define value.

    • The democratisation of wealth, as technology opens private-market access to a broader investor base while raising new questions about fairness, data, and risk.

    “Finance will be invisible, stitched into every product, every experience.”


    This is a forward-looking discussion about what comes after banking, where technology, capital, and human behaviour converge to redefine how financial systems work and who benefits from them.


    🎧 Watch the full conversation at www.fund-shack.com


    Follow Fund Shack on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts for more conversations with the people shaping private markets and the future of finance.


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    Thank you to our episode partner, Brookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services.


    For more information, visit: www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industry


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    💼 Learn more at:

    🌐 www.apis.pe

    🎙️Matteo Stefanel

    Managing Partner & Co-Founder, Apis Partners

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matteostefanel/


    🎙️Udayan Goyal

    Managing Partner & Co-Founder, Apis Partners

    Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ugoyal/


    Ross Butler

    Founder and Host Fund Shack

    🌐 www.fund-shack.com

    CONNECT on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/


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    00:00 Fintech revolution begins, Apis Partners ranked global #2

    01:45 Meet Apis Partners, fintech growth investors Matteo Stefanel & Udayan Goyal
    03:06 From Wall Street to growth capital, building a fintech platform
    05:01 Relationships as alpha networks turned into exits

    07:56 Exit-first model designing for strategic buyers

    11:24 Value creation buy-and-build and customer access

    16:21 Partnering with founders, trust and alignment

    18:20 Stablecoins & 24-hour liquidity, treasury reinvented

    23:54 Micropayments & continuous finance, real-time money flow
    27:27 Agentic AI, automation reshaping financial services
    31:15 Embedded finance & subscriptions, banking disappears

    36:52 Who owns the customer, brands vs banks

    42:46 Finance as social engine,from UBI to capital ownership

    47:00 Democratising wealth, opening private-market access

    50:20 Bitcoin vs stablecoins, new financial infrastructure
    54:28 the future of finance

    56 min
  • Inside Brookfield’s Operating Engine | Adrian Letts, Brookfield Private Equity | Fund Shack Ep. 77

    Brookfield is renowned for running the companies it owns, not just financing them. In this episode, Ross Butler speaks with Adrian Letts, Managing Partner in Brookfield’s Private Equity Group and Head of Business Operations, to explore how the firm’s operator-led model drives value creation from origination through exit.


    Adrian explains how Brookfield embeds operators alongside investors, with shared carry, shared accountability, and a shared mandate to transform portfolio companies. He discusses organisational design as a true value lever, why smaller and senior operating teams outperform larger ones, and how AI and digital tools are reshaping performance management and working-capital efficiency across the Brookfield ecosystem.


    From aligning incentives and structuring teams to deploying data and AI in real assets, this is a masterclass in how private equity really creates value.


    #PrivateEquity #Brookfield #ValueCreation #FundShack #AdrianLetts #PrivateMarkets #OperationalExcellence #AI #AlternativeInvestments #Leadership


    38 min
  • HSBC Asset Management on Alternatives, with William Benjamin

    Private markets are no longer on the sidelines. With listed companies shrinking and private companies multiplying, alternatives are becoming a core component of diversified portfolios.


    In this episode of Fund Shack, Ross Butler speaks with William Benjamin, Head of Alternative Solutions at HSBC Asset Management, about how alternatives are evolving and why investors haven’t “missed the boat” in the 2020s.


    Benjamin discusses:

    • Why private equity, credit, infrastructure, and venture capital are central to HSBC’s $75bn alternatives platform

    • The growth of evergreen fund structures and what investors should look for in managers

    • The challenges and opportunities of democratizing access to private markets

    • How HSBC leverages its global footprint to source opportunities beyond New York and London

    • The cultural and career dynamics of talent in alternatives

    This conversation explores how one of the world’s largest financial institutions is positioning itself in alternatives, and why Benjamin believes the next phase of growth will be defined not just by institutions, but by the increasing participation of high-net-worth investors.


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    💼 Learn more at:

    HSBC Asset Management

    🌐 www.assetmanagement.hsbc.co.uk


    William Benjamin, Head of Alternative Solutions at HSBC Asset Management

    🔗 https://www.linkedin.com/in/w-benjamin/


    Ross Butler Founder and Host Fund Shack


    🌐 www.fund-shack.com


    CONNECT on Linkedin


    www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/


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    00:00 – Introduction: William Benjamin, HSBC Asset Management
    01:03 – Why alternatives are becoming mainstream
    02:13 – Haven’t investors missed the boat?
    03:49 – Diversification and resilient portfolios
    04:36 – Democratization of private markets
    05:00 – Evergreen funds: what investors should know
    06:22 – Private equity & HSBC’s global sourcing edge
    09:46 – Private credit: diversification and risk management
    13:43 – Infrastructure, venture capital & new opportunities
    16:24 – $75bn in alternatives: HSBC’s growth outlook
    19:53 – Talent, culture & career advice in alternatives
    23:12 – Data, digital platforms & evergreen structures
    28:12 – The five-year outlook for private markets


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    31 min
  • Venture Capital, National Security, and the Future of Technology | Alex van Someren

    Alex van Someren has spent his career at the frontier of technology, venture capital, and national security. From joining Acorn Computers as a teenager, the company that seeded ARM Holdings, to co-founding cryptography firm nCipher, becoming a partner at Amadeus Capital Partners, and later serving as the UK’s Chief Scientific Adviser for National Security, his career offers unique insight into how capital and innovation shape geopolitics.


    In this episode, Alex explains how the UK’s National Security Strategic Investment Fund (NSIF) mirrors DARPA-backed venture in the US, why government must learn to take risk to access frontier technology, and the realities of venture capital returns. He discusses the hype and risks around artificial intelligence, the disruptive potential of quantum computing, the fragility of semiconductor supply chains, and the ESG debate around nuclear energy and small modular reactors.


    For investors, entrepreneurs, and policymakers, this conversation maps the crucial intersection of capital, technology, and defence in a changing global order.



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    Thank you to our episode partner


    Brookfield’s Private Equity Group: A Global leader in acquiring and driving operational transformation in industrials and essential business services.



    For more information, visit:


    www.brookfield.com/it-takes-industry



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    💼 Learn more at:


    Paladin Capital Group

    🌐 www.paladincapgroup.com


    Alex van Someren

    www.paladincapgroup.com/people/alex-van-someren/



    Ross Butler Founder and Host Fund Shack

    🌐 www.fund-shack.com

    CONNECT on Linkedin


    www.linkedin.com/in/rossbutler1/



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    Alex van Someren, Fund Shack, Venture Capital, Private Equity, National Security, Defence Technology, Dual-use Technology, Cryptography, nCipher, Amadeus Capital Partners, Acorn Computers, ARM Holdings, National Security Strategic Investment Fund, NSIF, DARPA, Government Venture Capital, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Large Language Models, Quantum Computing, Post-Quantum Cryptography, National Cyber Security Centre, NCSC, Semiconductor Supply Chain, CHIPS Act, National Semiconductor Strategy, Space Technology, Satellites, ESG, Nuclear Energy, Small Modular Reactors, Fusion Energy, Private Markets, Technology Innovation, Geopolitics, UK Venture Capital, Silicon Valley, Defence Spending, NATO, Paladin Capital, Calypso AI, Emerging Technologies, Risk and Innovation, Venture Returns




    0:00 – Introduction

    0:40 – From teenage coder to Acorn Computers and ARM Holdings

    2:33 – Leaving school at 17: self-taught entrepreneur

    3:26 – Building nCipher and cryptography’s real-world applications

    5:27 – Dual use: civilian vs. national security technology

    7:21 – The hidden history of venture capital and DARPA

    8:58 – The UK’s National Security Strategic Investment Fund (NSIF)

    10:42 – Risk, government spending, and culture clash with VC

    15:53 – “If you aren’t losing at least half your money…”

    20:08 – The US CHIPS Act and Europe’s semiconductor challenge

    29:23 – Venture capital’s boom in defence spending

    36:18 – AI is over-hyped, over-used, and makes us stupid

    40:30 – Defending the corporate AI stack (Paladin & Calypso)

    44:00 – Quantum computing: encryption at risk

    47:38 – Why space is now accessible to schoolchildren

    51:31 – ESG and nuclear: small modular reactors, fusion, and energy policy

    56:10 – Why making money in venture capital is so hard

    59:05 – Closing reflections



    1 hr 2 min
  • Private Equity Emerging Managers: What it takes to make it

    🎧 Episode #74: Emerging Managers: What It Takes to Make It

    Guests: Kim Pochon (Unigestion) & Joe Briggs (BCF )


    Series Launch: Fund Shack's Emerging Manager Series


    In this launch episode of Fund Shack’s Emerging Manager Series, Ross Butler speaks with Kim Pochon, Global Head of Primary Investments at Unigestion, and Joe Briggs, Founder of BCF, to explore what it really takes to build a successful first-time private equity fund.


    With LP appetite growing for new franchises, this episode unpacks the strategic, structural, and psychological factors that separate enduring platforms from short-lived experiments.


    🧱 Why “Emerging” Doesn’t Mean Inexperienced
    Most “emerging managers” are seasoned investors; what’s new is their journey into firm-building. While GPs may dislike the label, it matters deeply to LPs allocating to this segment.


    💡 Early Access = Long-Term Advantage
    Backing a first-time fund is about more than returns, it’s about gaining long-term partners. Kim Pochon shares how Unigestion’s early bets have evolved into deep collaborations across continuation vehicles, co-investments, and secondaries.


    🛠️ The Rise of Independent Sponsors and Hybrid Funds
    Joe Briggs outlines how deal-by-deal models, mini-funds, and short-duration strategies are allowing first-time managers to build track records and LP trust, without raising blind pool capital on Day 1.


    👥 Team Dynamics: The Critical Risk Factor
    Strategy is important, but people matter more. LPs scrutinise equity splits, decision-making processes, and team chemistry. Execution risk is often people risk.


    🔥 Why Founders Spin Out, and What Sets Them Apart
    From high-paid roles to high-risk launches, Joe and Kim explore what drives professionals to strike out on their own, and why the best emerging managers have a clear purpose and strong conviction.


    📈 “Know Why You Deserve to Exist”
    As Briggs puts it, emerging GPs must clearly articulate why their platform should exist, what differentiates it, and how it delivers value to LPs from Day 1.


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