In this week's episode Nora Bateson speaks with Joanna about: exploring the tension between settlement and migration; looking at the extreme polarization and fear we are experiencing; deep inquiry about possibilities; our participation in drawing boundaries in the collective ideascape; how to be part of the system's change...?; the skill of the future; the relationship between learning and change; dignity is a shared experience; longing for new ways of living our interdependence; the willingness to enjoy the beauty of life and carry its pain.