Gareth Cliff joined me on Jerm Warfare a few months ago, and joined me again this morning for a lockdown chit-chat.

Gareth is a wealth of knowledge and easily one of South Africa’s most memorable media personalities, and I can honestly say that it’s a great pleasure knowing him.

Like me, he is followed by a lot of haters, which means he is doing something right.

We had a great banter and I think you’ll enjoy it too.