Australian Investors Podcast

Gary Hui on shorting A2 Milk, why narratives lie & building deep research edge at Geometrica


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In this Australian Investors Podcast episode, your host Mitchell Sneddon is joined by Gary Hui, portfolio manager at Geometrica Fund, a Sydney-based global long-short hedge fund.

Gary doesn’t follow market narratives — he follows hard data.
In this episode, Mitchell and Gary discuss:
– Why narratives like founder-led businesses are often misleading
– How Geometrica surveyed thousands of WeChat users & port data to short A2 Milk
– Why ResMed’s fall was wrongly blamed on GLP-1s like Ozempic
– The process of building a deep research edge using alternative data
Topics Covered
– Gary’s career journey: from JP Morgan to founding Geometrica
– Why “good management” and “founder-led” are useless investing shortcuts
– How Geometrica defines edge through logic, maths & raw data
– Dissecting the A2 Milk short: port data, WeChat bots & channel stuffing
– ResMed’s misunderstood GLP-1 narrative vs actual gross margin drivers
– Building deep logic models and rejecting conventional wisdom
– How the team finds asymmetric bets with massive skew
– The role of volatility, balance sheet turnarounds & crowd psychology
– Why some of the best shorts started as long ideas
– How Gary views valuation as a proxy for popularity, not truth
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