Luke Schleusener, Co-Founder & CEO of Out In National Security (ONS) talks to Mike and Kyle about US national security, the second Lavender Scare, healthcare (or lack thereof) of Veterans Affairs, the trans military ban, and even Greenland.

Learn more about Out in National Security at http://outinnationalsecurity.org/ or on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/outinnatsec/.

In this episode: News- 1:49 || Main Topic (National Security)- 18:42 || Guest (Luke Schleusener)- 20:42 || Gayest & Straightest- 1:04:31

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