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Emps joins me to discuss the queer vibes, themes, and behaviors from pop's newest sensation, Olivia Rodrigo.  We cover Olivia's friendship with Iris Apatow (aka Rapatow) and some queer vibes in her album Sour and her album Guts.  We also discuss other celebrity gossip and tea that has cropped up about Olivia, not to mention Olivia's status as a Gaylor Swift believer!

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