Totem cams, Quads and even (Jay believes) sun shirts - some climbers become so connected to their gear that it seems to become a part of their personality. Today, Jay and Lee discuss the point at which gear preference veers from beneficial to overzealous. Then, the guys explore ways to politely speak about route difficulty in order to make all skill levels of climbers feel included at the crag. 

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