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Yascha Mounk and George Packer discuss autocracy in literature and real life.
George Packer is an award-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic. His latest book is The Emergency.
In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and George Packer discuss authoritarianism in fiction, living humanist virtues in morally complex times, and how the Democrats can defeat Donald Trump.
Note: This conversation was recorded on October 21, 2025.
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Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay.
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Yascha Mounk and George Packer discuss autocracy in literature and real life.
George Packer is an award-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic. His latest book is The Emergency.
In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and George Packer discuss authoritarianism in fiction, living humanist virtues in morally complex times, and how the Democrats can defeat Donald Trump.
Note: This conversation was recorded on October 21, 2025.
If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone.
Email: [email protected]
Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay.
Connect with us!
Spotify | Apple | Google
X: @Yascha_Mounk & @JoinPersuasion
YouTube: Yascha Mounk, Persuasion
LinkedIn: Persuasion Community
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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