On this episode the Renegades are joined by Democratic Alliance MP Ghaleb Cachalia. Ghaleb tells of his youth and the years he spent both in and out of the country during Apartheid. Roman explores this background in the context of his party allegiance and liberalism, and Jonathan wants to know more about his views on how to fix the country. Ghaleb gives a convincing approach to turning things around and discusses his future political goals.