Glass Box Podcast

What were the Position Papers and what were they for? We go over a brief overview of the Reorganized Latter Day Saints (RLDS) organizing a committee to deal with some major flaws in policy and doctrine. The committee circulated some ideas to RLDS leadership in the form of Position Papers. They were leaked before the ideas could be fully fleshed out, but that set off a chain of events that led to the RLDS abandoning its conservative past for a progressive Christian future, eventually becoming the Community of Christ. Today is our first Imposition Paper, seeking to reform the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the face of its telegraphed retrenchment phase. Then we tackle the final chapter of Pure in Heart by Dallin Oaks to hear him pad his word count, prophiteer, and summarize everything he's said in the book before the conclusion. Soon we'll see how 90s Oaks compares to 2026 Prophet Oaks! We wrap with happy news about data showing, conclusively, that vaccines, indeed, work, just like we've all known all along before idiots made it a wedge.

Show Notes:

Evan Sharley's post about the Presidential and Position Papers

https://gileriodekel.com/2022/07/the-position-and-presidential-papers/

Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks

Is it Possible to Control Your Thoughts? What Experts Say: https://www.treatmyocd.com/what-is-ocd/info/ocd-stats-and-science/is-it-possible-to-control-your-thoughts-what-experts-say

Involuntary Entry Into Consciousness from the Activation into Sets: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01017/full

Cognitive Control of Obsessional Thoughts: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0005796709000308#sec4

Happy News:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c621z28z138o

Kang, Lydia; Pedersen, Nate. Quackery: A Brief History of the Worst Ways to Cure Everything (pp. 390-394).

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Happy PRIDE Month! That's the whole bit today, PRIDE media! We brought a few pieces to discuss in order to celebrate all forms of experience and love. Along the way we have a few artists to showcase as well as lists for further exploration into this beautiful world of diverse media.

Show Notes:

LGBTQ+ Reads: https://lgbtqreads.com/

History:

11 LGBTQ+ Women Who Shaped the Course of History: https://www.them.us/story/lgbtq-women-who-shaped-history-womens-history-month

Recognizing LGBTQIA+ Women of Color Over the Years: https://emtrain.com/blog/diversity/lgbt-women-of-color/

12 Important Queer Women in History to Know: https://queersapphic.com/queer-culture/queer-women-history-lesbian/

LGBTQ+ Women Who Made History: https://womenshistory.si.edu/blog/lgbtq-women-who-made-history

Four LGBTQIA+ Women Who Made history: https://seattlepride.org/news/four-lgbtqia-women-who-made-history

Marsha P Johnson: Marsha: The Joy and Defiance of Marsha P. Johnson, by Tourmaline

Marsha P Johnson: The Life and Legacy of a Transgender Trailblazer, by Lyra Snow

Stonewall: The Definitive Story of the LGBT Rights Uprising that Changed America, by Martin B. Duberman

One Day in June: A Story Inspired by the Life and Activism of Marsha P Johnson, by Tourmaline

https://wams.nyhistory.org/life-story/marsha-p-johnson/

https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/marsha-p-johnson

Sally Ride: Sally Ride: America's First Woman in Space, by Lynn Sherr

https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/sally-ride

Josephine Baker: Josephine Baker: The Hungry Heart by Jean-Claude Baker and Chris Chase

https://nmaahc.si.edu/josephine-baker

90 Years Later, the Radical Power of Josephine Baker's Banana Skirt: https://www.vogue.com/article/josephine-baker-90th-anniversary-banana-skirt

Poetry:

Audre Lorde: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/audre-lorde

Zami: A New Spelling of My Name, by Audra Lourde

Fiction:

Historical Fiction by Era: https://lgbtqreads.com/general-fiction/realistic-historical-by-era/

Historical Romance by Era: https://lgbtqreads.com/romance/historical-romance-by-era/

Christopher Rice Recommends 9 LGBTQ Historical Fiction Titles: https://booktrib.com/2023/06/08/christopher-rice-recommends-9-lgbtq-historical-fiction-titles/

The Best Queer Historical Fiction of the Century (So Far): https://bookriot.com/best-queer-historical-fiction-of-the-century-so-far/

Love and Struggle Through the Ages: A Reading List of Queer Historical Fiction: https://lithub.com/love-and-struggle-throughout-the-ages-a-reading-list-of-queer-historical-fiction/

KJ Charles: https://www.kjcharleswriter.com/

Her Redbubble shop: https://www.redbubble.com/people/kjcharles/shop

Cat Sebastian: https://catsebastian.com/

Photography:

Hulleah J. Tsinhnahjinnie: https://nas.ucdavis.edu/people/hulleah-tsinhnahjinnie-seminolemuscogeedine

When Is a Photograph Worth a Thousand Words?: https://www.hulleah.com/9to5/1000words.htm

https://www.cartermuseum.org/artists/hulleah-tsinhnahjinnie

https://americanindian.si.edu/collections-search/search?edan_q=hulleah&edan_fq%5B0%5D=name%3A%22Tsinhnahjinnie%2C%20Hulleah%22

Thirsty Sword Lesbians

Website: https://evilhat.com/product/thirsty-sword-lesbians/

Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvFQCfvf-bM

5-hour playthrough with mechanic tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAJxx9khRjs

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Exclusion of evidence and habeas corpus? Who needs us? It's a Dallin Oaks episode and we go over two law review articles (pub. 1966 & 70) he wrote focusing on the rights of criminals. How we handle evidence consistent with the constitution is a complicated issue and Hoaks has a hot take. Plus, he thinks habeas corpus has gotten a bit out of hand with how many death row convicts it was helping. Then we dive through 2 more chapters from Pure in Heart about Spirituality and Worship. The hot takes here are akin to moldy soup in the back of the fridge. We round out with happy civil engineering news from California!

Show Notes:

Studying the Exclusionary Rule in Search and Seizure

https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3650&context=uclrev

Search and Seizure laws and SCOTUS rulings

https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does-fourth-amendment-mean

https://www.justia.com/criminal/procedure/search-and-seizure-rules/

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt4-7-1/ALDE_00000805/

Legal History in the High Court–Habeas Corpus (1966)

https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5483&context=mlr

Bushel's Case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushel%27s_Case

Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks

Happy News: https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/california-wildlife-crossing-biggest-annenberg

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Books and movies after religion! We've taken a listener-suggested-topic and run with it. Instead of pointing out individual pieces of media that are useful after religion, we talk about how various religions deal with information control. From banned-books lists to devil's music, various Abrahamic religions have varying levels of prohibition against non-religious material. We go through a bunch of them and discuss how information control in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints takes place. After that we review the movie The Wave (Die Welle), an independent German film about how easy it is for fascism to take root, set as a high-school project-week experiment. Then we end with happy news from the Salt Lake Tribune about them going non-paywalled to preserve journalistic integrity.

Show Notes:

Chris Shelton Speaking of Cults, Episode on "Scientology and the Arts": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZVixzVMwks

MOGP: The Wave (Die Welle):

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1063669/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GHXeYlgdY

The Third Wave Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment)

Ron Jones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jones_(teacher)

Happy News:

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2026/05/15/why-salt-lake-tribune-dropped-its/

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Our next Hoaks episode! But, before that! We go through a few select scriptures to see what the passages have to say about the modern Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But that's not all! What do the scriptures have to say about the MAGA movement and our modern politics? We conclude that a person cannot be a believing Christian while supporting the Mormon Church or MAGA. The Bible contradicts both movements so deeply that they're irreconcilable. Then we dive into Pure in Heart. Oaks has a lot to say about materialism and pride, never saying any of it into a mirror. Then we have some happy news where Native American communities have successfully halted a drilling project on native lands.

Show Notes:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020&version=NIV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2022&version=NIV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019&version=NIV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2019&version=NIV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2020&version=NIV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205&version=NIV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2018&version=NIV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206&version=NIV

Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks

Happy News:

https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/black-hills-drilling-project-canceled-after-backlash-tribes-132798661

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What do Disney, Ferrari, and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have in common? They're rather litigious when people do things they don't like. We go through the history of copyright and trademark to provide background for some notable recent lawsuits involving these companies. That launches us into a discussion about the recent lawsuit filed by the Mormon Church against John Dehlin, Mormon Stories, and the Open Stories Foundation. After that we talk about The Firm, a Tom Cruise movie where the good guy wins against the Mafia, a corrupt law firm, and the FBI. We end with some good news about targeting depression for treatment.

Show Notes:

https://copyrightalliance.org/copyright-law/copyright-act/

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca5/24-10900/24-10900-2024-10-20.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhBpI13dxkI

https://copyright.gov/about/1790-copyright-act.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gWaAJR5L18

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript

https://copyrightalliance.org/copyright-regulations/

https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/trademarks/law/Trademark_Statutes.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_trademark_law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1909

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1870

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Copyright_Act_of_1891

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-disneyland-memorial-o_b_5859

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_Dilution_Revision_Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arne_Anka

https://www.courthousenews.com/disney-goes-on-trial-over-moana-copyright-infringement-claims/

https://blog.ipleaders.in/popular-copyright-infringement-cases-highlighting-disney-protective-intellectual-property-rights/

https://copyrightalliance.org/copyright-cases/disney-v-vidangel/

https://variety.com/2025/digital/news/disney-google-ai-copyright-infringement-cease-and-desist-letter-1236606429/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-sued-enforcing-rights-mickey-mouse-public-domain-1236378997/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

https://carbuzz.com/features/7-times-ferrari-filed-lawsuits-against-its-own-fans/

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a30750318/ferrari-purosangue-name-lawsuit/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFepk2ZoJtQ

https://gileriodekel.com/2026/04/the-lds-church-is-suing-mormon-stories/

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/getting-it-right-clarifying-trademark-branding-concerns

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/1svqcdy/a_tale_of_two_responses_the_book_of_mormon/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/1svnrzq/if_youre_worried_about_brand_confusion_and_people/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/1sxh2yy/lds_lawsuit_against_dehlin_too_little_too_late/

https://humblymybrain.substack.com/p/the-lds-church-vs-mormon-stories?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1b8vxy&triedRedirect=true

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/1suvu8w/re_mormon_stories_litigation_a_brief_primer_on/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/1sp83g4/lds_church_lawsuit_against_mormon_stories_rejects/

Index librorum prohibitorum (in Latin): https://archive.org/details/case_wing_z1020_i39_1664/mode/2up

MOGP: The Firm : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106918/?ref_=tttrv_ov_bk

Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-firm

Happy News: For the first time, scientists pinpoint the brain cells behind depression: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/04/260423022010.htm

Accidental Medical Discoveries: How Tenacity and Pure Dumb Luck Changed the World by Robert W Winters.

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General Conference for Apr 2026 is here. We watched the whole thing so you don't have to. This is our breakdown and hyperfocus on what slipped through what slipped through the cracks!

Sunday Afternoon:

Christofferson Q12 - The end is coming, be outward bigots

Chi Hong (Sam) Wong Q70 - Remember, Remember BoM lesson

Aaron T. Hall Q70 - Names of Jesus from BoM

Susan H. Porter Primary GP - Baby-talk talk

Neil L Anderson Q12 - Eternal Marriage

Quentin L. Cook Q12 - First vision 1823, doesn't mention 1820

Taniela B. Wakolo Q70 - Bigotry is still bigoted even when it comes from an African-American General Authority

Gerrit Gong Q12 - Oaks red tie story

HOAKS ROUNDING IT OUT AND FUUUUCKKK THIS CONFERENCE!!!

A Night At the Garden documentary

https://anightatthegarden.com/

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

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General Conference for Apr 2026 is here. We watched the whole thing so you don't have to. This is our breakdown and hyperfocus on what slipped through what slipped through the cracks!

Sunday Morning:

Ucthdorf Acting Pres of Q12 - Happy Easter, I guess?

Emily Bell Freeman YW GP - Best of days, worst of days

Pedro X. Larreal Q70 - Happy easter

Edward B Rowe Q70 - I didn't get blown up by a landmine, that's what matters

Ronald Rasband Q12 - People with disabilities will be resurrected perfected

Dale Renlund Q12 - So many balls out there, keep your eye on the Jesus ball

Thierry K. Mutombo Q70 - Has had lots of kids but abandoned cultural tradition when one died

Alan R Walker Q70 - hunting for hidden treasures

Hoaks

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

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General Conference for Apr 2026 is here. We watched the whole thing so you don't have to. This is our breakdown and hyperfocus on what slipped through what slipped through the cracks!

Saturday Afternoon:

Gary Stevenson Q12 - Lost luggage

Edwardo Ortega Q70 - To new members

Wan-Liang Wu Q70 - More diversity through assimilation

David J. Wunderli FC YM GP - Youth carry too many rocks

Gerald Causse new Q12 - The Truman Flater Earther

Bryan J Holmes Q70 - Marathons and necessity of prophetic witness and blind obedience

Clement M. Matswagothata Q70 - Great story, maybe he'll get picked for Q15?

Ulisses Soares Q12 - Digital spaces and Mormon content creators

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

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General Conference for Apr 2026 is here. We watched the whole thing so you don't have to. This is our breakdown and hyperfocus on what slipped through what slipped through the cracks!

Saturday Morning:

Oaks POTLDS

Patrick Kearon Q12 - Callings

Kristen M. Yee SC RS GP - assignments and ministering

David A. Bednar Q12 - endure, you whiny little shits

Michael John U. Teh Q70 - diversity through assimilation

Jorge T Becerra Q70 - poverty, tithing, immigrants

CryRing - praying is powerful

Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

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