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  • Ep 199 — Journal of Mormon Polygamy Conference | Sense & Sensibilities

    Bryce attended the Journal of Mormon Polygamy Conference and snagged a few interviews from attendees, organizers, and presenters. It was a fantastic experience! The first issues are printed and ready for purchase at the link below and it's a great conference as well. Come next year! After that we discuss Sense & Sensibilities by Jane Austen to round out the third episode of Women's History Month. We end with some happy news from boxing trainers helping parkinson's patients.

    Show Notes:

    Journal of Mormon Polygamy website with currently-available issues

    https://journalofmormonpolygamy.org/jmp

    MOGP: Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen

    Sense and Sensibility : https://janeaustensociety.org.uk/jane-austen/the-novels/sense-and-sensibility/

    Jane Austen House: https://janeaustens.house/jane-austen/novels/sense-and-sensibility/

    Happy News:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0rjnn24y5o

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

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    2 hr 44 min
  • Ep 198 — Women's History Month | Orlando

    It's Women's History Month! We first talk about a few women in history who dared to stand out because representation matters. These are women in science, medicine, and even espionage who did amazing things to further scientific advances, to help heal people, etc and they deserve to be recognized. For the media segment, we talk about the 1993 movie Orlando, starring the amazing Tilda Swinton. Following that, we close out with happy news about Dolly Parton and children's books.

    Show Notes:

    Books to read:

    Code Girls: The Untold Story of the American Women Code Breakers in World War II, by Liza Mundy

    Wonder Women: 25 Innovators, inventors, and trailblazers who changed history, by Sam Maggs

    Nurse and Spy in the Union Army: S. Emma E. Edmonds' Riveting Account of Her Service as a Nurse and Spy during the Civil War, by S. Emma Edmonds

    Fanny Campbell, the Female Pirate Captain: A Tale of the Revolution, by Maturin Murray Ballou

    Spy Princess: The Life of Noor Inayat Khan, by Shrabani Basu

    Websites:

    How to celebrate Women's History Month: https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/how-to-celebrate-womens-history-month

    Lost Women of Science: https://www.lostwomenofscience.org/

    Alice Ball: https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/alice-ball

    Rosalind Franklin: https://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/about/facts-figures/dr-rosalind-franklin/

    Photo 51 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_51

    Jacqueline Felice de Almania: https://www.medievalwomen.org/jacqueline-felice-de-almania.html

    Marie Equi: https://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/equi_marie_1872_1952_/

    Sarah Emma Edmonds: https://www.battlefields.org/learn/biographies/sarah-emma-edmonds

    Elvira Josefina Concepcion de la Fuente Chaudoir: https://www.thetimes.com/comment/register/article/the-good-time-girl-who-fooled-the-nazis-9mgbknm2wjz

    Double Cross: the True Story of the D-Day Spies, by Ben Macintyre

    Noor Inayat Khan: https://engelsbergideas.com/portraits/the-courage-of-noor-inayat-khan/

    https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/who-was-noor-khan/

    32 Women who Fueled Innovations in the Automotive Industry: https://www.lelandwest.com/blog/listing.asp?2022/3/32-women-who-fueled-automotive-innovations

    Celebrating the Women Who Have Driven Auto Innovation

    https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a35752436/women-driven-auto-innovation/

    Mimi Vandermolen – The Mother of Automotive Ergonomics

    https://womensinnovations.org/women-innovator/mimi-vandermolen-the-mother-of-automotive-ergonomics/

    MOGP:

    Orlando: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107756/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_Orlando

    Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/orlando

    Essay on Orlando: https://www.scribd.com/document/237181150/Essay-on-Orlando

    Happy News: Dolly Parton has donated more than 270 Million Books to Children: https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/dolly-parton-imagination-library

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

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    2 hr 11 min
  • Ep 197 — Clark Gilbert | Pure In Heart pt. 2

    The time has come for a new apostle in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Clark G. Gilbert; time for your podcast hosts to rise to the occasion with another Apostolic Profile episode. He escaped the religious persecution Mormons often suffer growing up in Scottsdale, AZ, to go to BYU. Then off to Harvard for business, to acquire more useful skills for his forthcoming career in the Church Education System (CES). Before CES, however, Gilbert was responsible for trimming all the fat at Deseret News, which amounted to firing 40% of the workforce and shifting it to an unabashedly apologetic mission statement defending the church. Once appointed to CES, Gilbert instituted a series of Orwellian surveillance systems at BYU to punish thought crime; Ernest Wilkinson would be proud and Jeffrey Holland finally has a man to fire some muskets. Now Gilbert joins as the youngest apostle, securing his future position as prophet circa 2050s-70s. This "disruptive innovator" has a lot of new ideas to keep the church as extremist-conservative as is legally permissible heading into the 22nd century. This call to the Apostleship by Dallin Oaks ensures Oaks' legacy remains long after he's become a shepherd of worms. Patrons get a bonus segment comparing Gilbert's interviews at Deseret News and SL Tribune immediately after his ordination, which tangentially serves as a case study for the deterioration of journalism at Deseret Media, due to Gilbert himself. After that, it's our next installment of Oaks' book, Pure in Heart, where he discusses the importance of mindset and intentionality when rendering service, especially for the church. We end with happy news about a potential future cure for Type 1 Diabetes.

    Show Notes:

    Clark Gilbert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_G._Gilbert

    Gilbert's likely tenure as future prophet https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/1r8c74x/on_his_first_day_in_the_q15_clark_g_gilbert/

    Official press release https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/clark-gilbert-called-quorum-of-the-twelve-apostles

    Gilbert Op-ed for ChurchNewsroom

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/how-education-family-and-testimony-are-fundamental-in-the-life-of-elder-clark-g-gilbert

    The Parable of the Slope https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2021/10/16gilbert?lang=eng

    Disruptive Technologies: Catching the Wave

    https://hbr.org/1995/01/disruptive-technologies-catching-the-wave

    The Disruption Machine by Jill Lepore

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/06/23/the-disruption-machine

    Gilbert's profile on BYU Law and Wheatley Institute with law-focused talks

    https://www.religiousfreedomlibrary.org/authors/clark-g-gilbert

    Gilbert: Stewardship of Our First Freedom

    https://www.religiousfreedomlibrary.org/documents/the-stewardship-of-our-first-freedom#note-30

    Gilbert: The Courage of Our Convictions

    https://www.religiousfreedomlibrary.org/documents/the-courage-of-our-convictions-how-religious-expression-goes-beyond-religious-liberty

    Gilbert: Dare to be Different

    https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/14/23319209/elder-clark-gilbert-religious-universities-should-dare-to-be-different/

    American Disestablishment: The Conclusion by Miles Smith

    https://davenantinstitute.org/american-disestablishment-the-conclusion/

    Disestablishmentarianism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disestablishmentarianism

    Governance and the Religion Question: Voluntaryism, Disestablishment, and America's Church-State Proposition by Carl H. Esbeck

    https://scholarship.law.missouri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1156&context=facpubs

    Becket Foundation "Religious Liberty" SCOTUS victories

    https://becketfund.org/cases/?fwp_case_court=us-supreme-court&fwp_case_status=past

    Hosanna-Tabor

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/565/171/

    Trinity Lutheran

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/582/15-577/

    Our Lady of Guadalupe

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/591/19-267/

    Carson v. Makin

    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/596/20-1088/

    How SCOTUS is Dismantling the Separation of Church and State

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/how-the-supreme-court-is-dismantling-the-separation-of-church-and-state/

    American Council of Education

    https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/american-council-on-education/

    Becoming BYU

    https://aims.byu.edu/becoming-byu

    LDS Education Boss Touts BYU's Commitment to Religious Freedom by Peggy Fletcher Stack

    https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/24/byu-will-never-back-away-its/

    Spiritual Crackdown at BYU? By RadioWest

    https://radiowest.kuer.org/podcast/radiowest/2025-01-16/a-spiritual-crackdown-at-brigham-young-university

    BYU New Employment Policy

    https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/03/10/new-employment-policy/

    BYU employment questionnaire

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/ecclesiastical-leader-questions-new-ces-hires

    Fine Print: The Deseret News Spins its Circulation Numbers by Rachel Piper

    https://www.cityweekly.net/news/fine-print-the-deseret-news-spins-its-circulation-numbers-2207487

    Dallin Oaks and Clark Gilbert: Stand Fast with Love in Proclaiming Truth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6IXLufuAAQ

    Gilbert Deseret News interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORUY06HPmfM

    Gilbert SL Trib interview

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FPwhJhBJ-A

    Ben Park video on Gilbert

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTXXNeydptg

    Gordon Monson: Clark Gilbert has been called as an LDS apostle. Now, we'll see if he's chosen.

    https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/02/13/maybe-clark-gilbert-will-be/

    Gordon Monson: LDS Church education boss should put down the hammer at BYU and pick up an olive branch: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/06/byu-there-is-too-much-fear-too/

    Dark days: New rules have BYU professors running scared https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/05/byu-blue-why-these-are-dark-days/

    Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks

    The Mansion, by Henry Van Dyke: https://americanliterature.com/author/henry-van-dyke/short-story/the-mansion

    Happy News:

    A bold new plan could finally cure Type 1 diabetes: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/03/260302030648.htm

    Quackery: A Brief History of the Worst Ways to Cure Everything by Lydia Kang and Nate Pedersen

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

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    4 hr 6 min
  • Ep 196 — Jesse Owens | 42: Jackie Robinson

    It's February and that means it is Black History Month. And since we are in the middle of the 2026 Winter Olympics, we are going to talk about one of THE most famous African-American Olympic athletes of all time, Jesse Owens. We then discuss the movie 42, the story of Jackie Robinson's first year in the white baseball league in 1947. After that, we'll round out the episode with happy news about a peace march from Texas to DC. Happy Black History month!

    Next Live Show: Monday February 23, 6:00 PM (MT) We will talk about the newest apostle. We look forward to seeing you!

    Show Notes:

    Triumph: The Untold Story of Jesse Owens and Hitler's Olympics, By Jeremy Schaap

    American Legends: The Life of Jesse Owens, by Charles Rivers Editors

    Jesse Owens: A Life in American History (Black History Lives), by F. Erik Brooks and Kevin M. Jones Sr.

    Jesse Owens official website: https://jesseowens.com/

    Biography on Olympics website; https://www.olympics.com/en/athletes/jesse-owens

    Black U.S. Olympians won in Nazi Germany only to be overlooked at home: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetorch/2016/08/13/489773389/black-u-s-olympians-won-in-nazi-germany-only-to-be-overlooked-at-home

    Race and Sports_ Exposing the hypocrisy of the 1936 Olympics: https://presidentlincoln.illinois.gov/education/educator-resources/teaching-guides/exposing-the-hypocrisy-of-the-1936-berlin-olympics/

    Obama Rights Historic Racial Wrong for Olympic Heroes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji-9PimDLRQ&t=142s

    Documentary about the other 17 black athletes, Olympic Pride, American Prejudice: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5068938/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_olympic%2520pride%2520

    Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/olympic-pride-american-prejudice

    American Experience: Jesse Owens (2012 Documentary): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2122879/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_1_cdt_epp_sm_1

    Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jesse-owens

    1968 Olympics Black Power Salute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olympics_Black_Power_salute

    MOGP:

    42: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453562/?ref_=fn_t_1

    Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/42-the-jackie-robinson-story

    Happy News:

    https://gleam.news/stories/monks-complete-2-300-mile-walk-for-peace-to-washington

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

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    2 hr 39 min
  • Ep 195 — Ethics, Morality and Professional Responsibility | Pure in Heart pt. 1

    Ready for more Dallin Oaks stuff? First we talk about a letter Joseph Smith wrote to W.W. Phelps. Then we discuss the law review article "Ethics, Mortality, and Professional Responsibility", by Dallin Oaks published October 1975 in the BYU Law Review. For the Sword of Laman, we take a look at the first two chapters of Oaks' book Pure In Heart. We finish it off with some happy news about a judge overturning Trump's block of an off-shore wind project that could power 600,000 homes. Enjoy!

    Show Notes:

    Letter to W. W. Phelps Jan 11, 1833

    https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-william-w-phelps-11-january-1833/2#historical-intro

    Modern D&C 52

    https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revelation-6-june-1831-dc-52/2

    Ethics, Morality, and Professional Responsibility by Dallin Oaks

    http://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=lawreview

    Wickersham Commission

    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/wickersham-commission

    Criminal Justice in U.S. History

    https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/criminal-justice-us-history

    Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks

    Woes of the Pharisees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woes_of_the_Pharisees

    Cleansing the Inner Vessel by Ezra Taft Benson (April 1986 GenCon): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1986/04/cleansing-the-inner-vessel?lang=eng

    Inspiring Music, Worthy Thoughts by Boyd K Packer (GenCon 1973): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1973/10/inspiring-music-worthy-thoughts?lang=eng

    Worthy Music, Worthy Thoughts (1976 filmstrip): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ5Z6AoEKuY

    Richard G Scott in April GenCon 1992: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1992/04/healing-the-tragic-scars-of-abuse?lang=eng

    Happy News: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/02/trump-halted-offshore-wind-project-to-proceed

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

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    2 hr 41 min
  • Ep 194 — Dallin Oaks | Carthage Conspiracy

    Well, it's time. Let's talk about President Dallin Harris Oaks, the Hoaks man, the Mormon Gollum. First, we cover the biography In the Hands of the Lord: The Life of Dallin H. Oaks by Richard Turley. Then we take a look at Hoaks' book The Carthage Conspiracy, as well as a presentation from 2021 where he actually uttered a prophecy! And after all that, we share some amazing science news. Researchers at Johns Hopkins have uncovered a surprising new way to influence brain activity by targeting a long-mysterious class of proteins linked to anxiety, schizophrenia, and movement disorders. Enjoy!

    Show Notes:

    Cyrus Dallin Sculptor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Edwin_Dallin

    Cyrus Dallin: https://dallin.org/about-cyrus-dallin/

    Stella Oaks Foundation: https://www.stellahoaks.org/

    Law Review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_review

    Supreme Court case 1957-1958: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1957

    Chief Justice Earl Warren: https://www.oyez.org/justices/earl_warren

    The Sit-In: 40 years later: https://chicagomaroon.com/22887/grey-city/the-sit-in-40-years-later/

    Studying the Exclusionary Rule in Search and Seizure: https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/studying-exclusionary-rule-search-and-seizure

    Why Dress and Grooming Standards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56pD3WMPQao

    Talk of the Month: Standards of Dress and Grooming: https://bhroberts.org/records/0spyAV-0Dx8uN/dallin_h_oaks_explains_byu_grooming_standards_in_the_new_era

    Internal Revenue Service Investigations of Unidentified Persons, Denver Law Review: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://digitalcommons.du.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2923&context=dlr

    United States vs Brigham Young University: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/485/534/1377372/

    The Wall Between Church and State: https://archive.org/details/wallbetweenchurc0000oaks/page/n5/mode/2up

    MoGP:

    Carthage Conspiracy by Dallin Oaks and Marvin Hill

    https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p007620

    Dallin Oaks Lecture Nov 12, 2021 @ University of Virginia Mormon Studies

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0r2YIAsOQs

    Happy News: A "dormant" brain protein turns out to be a powerful switch: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260118233607.htm

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

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    3 hr 26 min
  • Ep 193 — AI and Ethics w/ Chris Mitsch | A.I. Artificial Intelligence

    Welcome to 2026! We start out the year talking to an interesting person — Chris Mitsch — a Professor of Computer Science, whose focus has been on AI ethics. We discuss a variety of technologies known as AI, the limitations, costs, potential uses, who stands to benefit, and a litany of related issues. This leads to our MOGP segment, where we watched A.I.: Artificial Intelligence, of course! And we close the episode with a round-up of good energy news from 2025.

    Show Notes:

    Papers mentioned during the interview:

    Does Liking Yellow Imply Driving a School Bus? By Gonen et. al.

    https://aclanthology.org/2025.naacl-long.35/

    The Reversal Curse: LLMs trained on "A is B" fail to learn "B is A" by Berglund et. al.

    https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.12288

    Seeing like a State by James C. Scott

    https://files.libcom.org/files/Seeing%20Like%20a%20State%20-%20James%20C.%20Scott.pdf

    The Mechanic and the Luddite by Jathan Sadowski

    https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-mechanic-and-the-luddite/paper

    Empire of AI by Haren Hao

    https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/743569/empire-of-ai-by-karen-hao/

    MOGP:

    A.I. (Artificial Intelligence)

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/

    Happy News:

    https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/clean-energy/clean-energy-renewables-charts-2025

    Quackery: A Brief History of the Worst Ways to Cure Everything by Lydia Kang and Nate Pedersen

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod

    Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

    BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social

    Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/

    Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

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    One time Paypal donation: [email protected]

    Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

    3 hr 7 min
  • Ep 192 — All Media 2025!

    As per tradition, we're talking all media to round out the year! Our theme is past, present, future; we're discussing what influenced both of us the most in each category. Thanks for hanging out with us this past year!

    Shan:

    Past: The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare

    Present:

    The Radium Girls: The Dark Story of America's Shining Women by Kate Moore.

    A Woman of No Importance: The Untold Story of the American Spy Who Helped Win World War II, by Sonia Purnell

    Sylvia Pankhurst: Natural Born Rebel, by Rachel Holmes

    The Sisterhood: The Secret History of the Women at the CIA, by Liza Mundy

    The Woman They Could Not Silence: One Woman, Her Incredible Fight for Freedom, and the Men Who Tried to Make Her Disappear, Kate Moore

    Ten Days in a Mad-House: The Original 1887 Edition (Nellie Bly's Experience On Blackwell's Island) by Nellie Bly

    Nellie Bly: Daredevil. Reporter. Feminist by Brooke Kroeger

    The Secret Life of Dr James Barry: Victorian England's Most Eminent Surgeon, by Rachel Holmes

    Future: Star Trek

    Bryce:

    Past: Grand Theft Auto

    Present: The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaquui Way of Knowledge by Carlos Castaneda

    Future: Age of Disclosure

    Show Notes:

    History of Grand Theft Auto

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poKPUS7pu5Y

    The Teachings of Don Juan

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Teachings_of_Don_Juan

    The Aliens are Here (Again)! A Review of The Age of Disclosure by Michael Shermer

    https://www.skeptic.com/article/the-aliens-are-here-again-a-review-of-the-age-of-disclosure/

    Skeptic debunks of UFO/UAP videos

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHDlfIaBEqw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuhkVTJ6A_c

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om0d0u1ASJY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64zlyzojpPM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs&t=1093s

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod

    Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

    BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social

    Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/

    Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

    Or find the merch store by clicking on "Store" here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html

    One time Paypal donation: [email protected]

    Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

    2 hr 22 min
  • Ep 191 — CIA Torture Program and the Mormons Who Created it | The Report

    Yes, the CIA tortured inmates suspected of terrorism in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Two of the primary men involved with creating this program are Mormon, one was called to be a Bishop after taking $81mn from the government to torture people. We discuss the report, how it came to light, some of the key figures along the way, and the fight over the FOIA release of the report in the courts. After that we talk about The Report, wherein Adam Driver plays Dan Jones who led the investigation at the direction of Senator Dianne Feinstein. Then we have some happy news about libraries getting funding that was promised to them.

    CW: torture, suicide

    Show Notes:

    Torture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture#Punishment

    Torture in the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_in_the_United_States#History_of_U.S._Accession

    US Senate report on CIA torture "The Torture Report": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Senate_report_on_CIA_torture

    The Torture Memos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_Memos

    7 Key Points form the C.I.A. Torture Report by Jeremy Ashkenas, Hannah Fairfield, Josh Keller, and Paul Volpe: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/09/world/cia-torture-report-key-points.html

    Jay Bybee: The man behind waterboarding, by Randy James: https://time.com/archive/6914445/jay-bybee-the-man-behind-waterboarding/

    Bruce Jessen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Jessen

    Enhanced Interrogation Techniques: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_interrogation_techniques

    Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival,_Evasion,_Resistance_and_Escape

    Torture, Ethics, Accountability? By David R Katner: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2791&context=luclj

    CIA Paid Torture Teachers More Than $80 Million by Robert Windrem: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-torture-report/cia-paid-torture-teachers-more-80-million-n264756

    Torture victims will bear psychological scars long after CIA report scandal fades: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/13/learned-helplessness-enduring-effects-torture-haunt-victims

    The Torture Debate by David Anderson: https://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/2005/12/23/the-torture-debate/21435/

    The CIA and the Church: https://mormonr.org/qnas/H2jKm/cia_and_the_church

    The senate torture report is a condemnation of Mormon moral reasoning: https://bycommonconsent.com/2014/12/10/the-senate-torture-report-is-a-condemnation-of-mormon-moral-reasoning/

    The Role of the LDS church in developing torture by Cherry O Top: https://churchofthefridge.com/role-lds-church-developing-torture/

    Mormonism and Torture — Paradoxes and First Principles by Boyd Petersen: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/69-71_Petersen_torture-3.pdf

    Christopher Hitchens tries waterboarding via Vanity Fair

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58

    Nixon Tapes "Cancer on the Presidency" - Dean and Nixon discussing blackmail

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnUJa6uuL_Y

    Nixon "I'm not a crook"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCEQP2-qOJk

    Electronic Frontier Foundation on OPEN Governt Act

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/01/key-open-government-reform-legislation-becomes-law

    ACLU Torture Report landing page

    https://www.aclu.org/cases/senate-torture-report-foia

    Executive Summary of the Torture Report

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/sites-default-files-documents-crpt-113srpt288.pdf

    NPR on Abu Zubaydah

    https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084161762/supreme-court-rules-against-disclosure-in-torture-case

    NSI info sheet on FOIA

    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/foia/guide.html

    Electronic Frontier Foundation on history of FOIA

    https://www.eff.org/issues/transparency/history-of-foia

    Privacy Act of 1974

    https://www.justice.gov/opcl/privacy-act-1974

    https://www.justice.gov/opcl/overview-privacy-act-1974-2020-edition

    1966 hearing on CIA and FBI invasions of privacy

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-89shrg61406p6/pdf/CHRG-89shrg61406p6.pdf

    MOGP: The Report: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8236336/

    The portrayal of CIA in 'The Report': Separating Truth from Fiction by Brian Greer https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/portrayal-cia-report-separating-truth-fiction

    Happy News:

    https://ilovelibraries.org/article/all-federal-library-grants-previously-canceled-by-federal-agency-restored/

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod

    Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

    BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social

    Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/

    Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

    Or find the merch store by clicking on "Store" here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html

    One time Paypal donation: [email protected]

    Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

    3 hr 31 min
  • Ep 190 — Mormon Money pt. 5; Gerald Caussé | Catch Me If You Can

    The new apostle for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has taken his seat at the table. Gerald Caussé spent his life in corporate business before his call to the Presiding Bishopric in 2012. In 2015 he ascended to Presiding Bishop and has been the money manager of the church since then. During his tenure, numerous scandals have hit the church related to finances, including a fine from the SEC for falsifying business records to conceal wealth. In the wake of these numerous scandals, Gerald takes his position on the board of the wealthiest religion on the planet. Let's discuss! After that we chat about Catch Me If You Can, a movie about a con man starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks that does a great job of concealing the truth. Then we have happy news about pain management medications and promising research in that field.

    Show Notes:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-07-18/how-the-mormons-make-money?embedded-checkout=true

    https://religionnews.com/2025/11/07/im-cautiously-optimistic-about-the-new-lds-apostle/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqt-k5lbrQhddAne7du47HHB6Gfpstoh_gnkML4Mjyb2cciCqUeR9lh0geUR_aem_j1UGWxzM9qQmQJTCjHRRfg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rald_Causs%C3%A9

    https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/2/14/21133740/mormon-church-finances-billions-presiding-bishopric-ensign-peak-tithing-donations-byu-real-estate/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_E._Stevenson

    https://archive.ph/20130102082820/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695267801,00.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXbPxIHkijg

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/gerald-j-causse?lang=eng

    https://speeches.byu.edu/speakers/gerald-causse/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/4636873Z:FP?embedded-checkout=true

    https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/08/16/lds-churchs-ensign-peak-reports/

    https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/feds-fine-mormon-church-5-million

    https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023-35

    https://ldsflow.com/the-lds-church-a-year-of-global-service-and-impact-w-infographic/

    https://doctorow.medium.com/the-mormon-church-owns-the-most-valuable-property-portfolio-in-america-ff590d405dd6

    https://www.livescience.com/18094-perceptions-mormonism-americans-infographic.html

    https://exploringmormonism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Corporate-structure-image-400.jpg

    https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/8nwznm/breakdown_of_the_humanitarian_aid_vs_church/

    https://mormonfamily.net/2666/mormons-in-america

    https://mormonwiki.com/Farms_Owned_By_The_Mormon_Church

    https://mormonwiki.com/Farmland_Reserve

    https://github.com/jsoma/data-studio-projects/issues/287

    https://mormonbillions.com/

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/feature/templesquare/dining?lang=eng

    https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=54478720&itype=cmsid

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-statement-church-finances

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/church-donations-and-reserves?lang=eng

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-finances-and-a-growing-global-church

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-financial-independence

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/mitt-romneys-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-campaign/

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/leader/keith-b-mcmullin?lang=eng

    https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/leader/keith-b-mcmullin?lang=eng

    https://www.polynesia.com/packages?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19311784&gbraid=0AAAAAD_ZKoaNHFjLk9c46VTzwjPJppfQq&gclid=Cj0KCQiAoZDJBhC0ARIsAERP-F_GnjI9U3f9gVGjpeQI6kspteXwPXuh-5JdDFi3aiUVpxghq9HZMZgaAnBREALw_wcB

    https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/8n8dd3/mormonleaks_has_uncovered_13_llcs_limited/

    MOGP: Catch Me If You Can: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264464/?ref_=ttpl_ov_bk

    Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/catch-me-if-you-can

    Books:

    The Greatest Hoax on Earth – Catching Truth, While We Can, by Alan C Logan

    Catch Me If You Can: The True Story of a Real Fake, by Frank W. Abagnale and Stan Redding

    Frank Abagnale Jr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale

    Happy News: A tiny enzyme may hold the key to safer pain relief: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251123085557.htm

    Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk

    He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g

    Email: [email protected]

    Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod

    Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions

    BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social

    Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/

    Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop

    Or find the merch store by clicking on "Store" here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html

    One time Paypal donation: [email protected]

    Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10

    2 hr 27 min

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