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Bryce attended the Journal of Mormon Polygamy Conference and snagged a few interviews from attendees, organizers, and presenters. It was a fantastic experience! The first issues are printed and ready for purchase at the link below and it's a great conference as well. Come next year! After that we discuss Sense & Sensibilities by Jane Austen to round out the third episode of Women's History Month. We end with some happy news from boxing trainers helping parkinson's patients.
Show Notes:
Journal of Mormon Polygamy website with currently-available issues
https://journalofmormonpolygamy.org/jmp
MOGP: Sense and Sensibility by Jane Austen
Sense and Sensibility : https://janeaustensociety.org.uk/jane-austen/the-novels/sense-and-sensibility/
Jane Austen House: https://janeaustens.house/jane-austen/novels/sense-and-sensibility/
Happy News:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0rjnn24y5o
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
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It's Women's History Month! We first talk about a few women in history who dared to stand out because representation matters. These are women in science, medicine, and even espionage who did amazing things to further scientific advances, to help heal people, etc and they deserve to be recognized. For the media segment, we talk about the 1993 movie Orlando, starring the amazing Tilda Swinton. Following that, we close out with happy news about Dolly Parton and children's books.
Show Notes:
Books to read:
Code Girls: The Untold Story of the American Women Code Breakers in World War II, by Liza Mundy
Wonder Women: 25 Innovators, inventors, and trailblazers who changed history, by Sam Maggs
Nurse and Spy in the Union Army: S. Emma E. Edmonds' Riveting Account of Her Service as a Nurse and Spy during the Civil War, by S. Emma Edmonds
Fanny Campbell, the Female Pirate Captain: A Tale of the Revolution, by Maturin Murray Ballou
Spy Princess: The Life of Noor Inayat Khan, by Shrabani Basu
Websites:
How to celebrate Women's History Month: https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/how-to-celebrate-womens-history-month
Lost Women of Science: https://www.lostwomenofscience.org/
Alice Ball: https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/alice-ball
Rosalind Franklin: https://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/about/facts-figures/dr-rosalind-franklin/
Photo 51 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_51
Jacqueline Felice de Almania: https://www.medievalwomen.org/jacqueline-felice-de-almania.html
Marie Equi: https://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/equi_marie_1872_1952_/
Sarah Emma Edmonds: https://www.battlefields.org/learn/biographies/sarah-emma-edmonds
Elvira Josefina Concepcion de la Fuente Chaudoir: https://www.thetimes.com/comment/register/article/the-good-time-girl-who-fooled-the-nazis-9mgbknm2wjz
Double Cross: the True Story of the D-Day Spies, by Ben Macintyre
Noor Inayat Khan: https://engelsbergideas.com/portraits/the-courage-of-noor-inayat-khan/
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/who-was-noor-khan/
32 Women who Fueled Innovations in the Automotive Industry: https://www.lelandwest.com/blog/listing.asp?2022/3/32-women-who-fueled-automotive-innovations
Celebrating the Women Who Have Driven Auto Innovation
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a35752436/women-driven-auto-innovation/
Mimi Vandermolen – The Mother of Automotive Ergonomics
https://womensinnovations.org/women-innovator/mimi-vandermolen-the-mother-of-automotive-ergonomics/
MOGP:
Orlando: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107756/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6_tt_1_nm_7_in_0_q_Orlando
Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/orlando
Essay on Orlando: https://www.scribd.com/document/237181150/Essay-on-Orlando
Happy News: Dolly Parton has donated more than 270 Million Books to Children: https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/dolly-parton-imagination-library
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
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The time has come for a new apostle in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Clark G. Gilbert; time for your podcast hosts to rise to the occasion with another Apostolic Profile episode. He escaped the religious persecution Mormons often suffer growing up in Scottsdale, AZ, to go to BYU. Then off to Harvard for business, to acquire more useful skills for his forthcoming career in the Church Education System (CES). Before CES, however, Gilbert was responsible for trimming all the fat at Deseret News, which amounted to firing 40% of the workforce and shifting it to an unabashedly apologetic mission statement defending the church. Once appointed to CES, Gilbert instituted a series of Orwellian surveillance systems at BYU to punish thought crime; Ernest Wilkinson would be proud and Jeffrey Holland finally has a man to fire some muskets. Now Gilbert joins as the youngest apostle, securing his future position as prophet circa 2050s-70s. This "disruptive innovator" has a lot of new ideas to keep the church as extremist-conservative as is legally permissible heading into the 22nd century. This call to the Apostleship by Dallin Oaks ensures Oaks' legacy remains long after he's become a shepherd of worms. Patrons get a bonus segment comparing Gilbert's interviews at Deseret News and SL Tribune immediately after his ordination, which tangentially serves as a case study for the deterioration of journalism at Deseret Media, due to Gilbert himself. After that, it's our next installment of Oaks' book, Pure in Heart, where he discusses the importance of mindset and intentionality when rendering service, especially for the church. We end with happy news about a potential future cure for Type 1 Diabetes.
Show Notes:
Clark Gilbert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_G._Gilbert
Gilbert's likely tenure as future prophet https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/1r8c74x/on_his_first_day_in_the_q15_clark_g_gilbert/
Official press release https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/clark-gilbert-called-quorum-of-the-twelve-apostles
Gilbert Op-ed for ChurchNewsroom
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/how-education-family-and-testimony-are-fundamental-in-the-life-of-elder-clark-g-gilbert
The Parable of the Slope https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2021/10/16gilbert?lang=eng
Disruptive Technologies: Catching the Wave
https://hbr.org/1995/01/disruptive-technologies-catching-the-wave
The Disruption Machine by Jill Lepore
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/06/23/the-disruption-machine
Gilbert's profile on BYU Law and Wheatley Institute with law-focused talks
https://www.religiousfreedomlibrary.org/authors/clark-g-gilbert
Gilbert: Stewardship of Our First Freedom
https://www.religiousfreedomlibrary.org/documents/the-stewardship-of-our-first-freedom#note-30
Gilbert: The Courage of Our Convictions
https://www.religiousfreedomlibrary.org/documents/the-courage-of-our-convictions-how-religious-expression-goes-beyond-religious-liberty
Gilbert: Dare to be Different
https://www.deseret.com/2022/9/14/23319209/elder-clark-gilbert-religious-universities-should-dare-to-be-different/
American Disestablishment: The Conclusion by Miles Smith
https://davenantinstitute.org/american-disestablishment-the-conclusion/
Disestablishmentarianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disestablishmentarianism
Governance and the Religion Question: Voluntaryism, Disestablishment, and America's Church-State Proposition by Carl H. Esbeck
https://scholarship.law.missouri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1156&context=facpubs
Becket Foundation "Religious Liberty" SCOTUS victories
https://becketfund.org/cases/?fwp_case_court=us-supreme-court&fwp_case_status=past
Hosanna-Tabor
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/565/171/
Trinity Lutheran
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/582/15-577/
Our Lady of Guadalupe
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/591/19-267/
Carson v. Makin
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/596/20-1088/
How SCOTUS is Dismantling the Separation of Church and State
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/how-the-supreme-court-is-dismantling-the-separation-of-church-and-state/
American Council of Education
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/american-council-on-education/
Becoming BYU
https://aims.byu.edu/becoming-byu
LDS Education Boss Touts BYU's Commitment to Religious Freedom by Peggy Fletcher Stack
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/24/byu-will-never-back-away-its/
Spiritual Crackdown at BYU? By RadioWest
https://radiowest.kuer.org/podcast/radiowest/2025-01-16/a-spiritual-crackdown-at-brigham-young-university
BYU New Employment Policy
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/03/10/new-employment-policy/
BYU employment questionnaire
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/ecclesiastical-leader-questions-new-ces-hires
Fine Print: The Deseret News Spins its Circulation Numbers by Rachel Piper
https://www.cityweekly.net/news/fine-print-the-deseret-news-spins-its-circulation-numbers-2207487
Dallin Oaks and Clark Gilbert: Stand Fast with Love in Proclaiming Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6IXLufuAAQ
Gilbert Deseret News interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORUY06HPmfM
Gilbert SL Trib interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FPwhJhBJ-A
Ben Park video on Gilbert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTXXNeydptg
Gordon Monson: Clark Gilbert has been called as an LDS apostle. Now, we'll see if he's chosen.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2026/02/13/maybe-clark-gilbert-will-be/
Gordon Monson: LDS Church education boss should put down the hammer at BYU and pick up an olive branch: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/06/byu-there-is-too-much-fear-too/
Dark days: New rules have BYU professors running scared https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/05/byu-blue-why-these-are-dark-days/
Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks
The Mansion, by Henry Van Dyke: https://americanliterature.com/author/henry-van-dyke/short-story/the-mansion
Happy News:
A bold new plan could finally cure Type 1 diabetes: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/03/260302030648.htm
Quackery: A Brief History of the Worst Ways to Cure Everything by Lydia Kang and Nate Pedersen
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod
Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions
BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social
Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social
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We
It's February and that means it is Black History Month. And since we are in the middle of the 2026 Winter Olympics, we are going to talk about one of THE most famous African-American Olympic athletes of all time, Jesse Owens. We then discuss the movie 42, the story of Jackie Robinson's first year in the white baseball league in 1947. After that, we'll round out the episode with happy news about a peace march from Texas to DC. Happy Black History month!
Next Live Show: Monday February 23, 6:00 PM (MT) We will talk about the newest apostle. We look forward to seeing you!
Show Notes:
Triumph: The Untold Story of Jesse Owens and Hitler's Olympics, By Jeremy Schaap
American Legends: The Life of Jesse Owens, by Charles Rivers Editors
Jesse Owens: A Life in American History (Black History Lives), by F. Erik Brooks and Kevin M. Jones Sr.
Jesse Owens official website: https://jesseowens.com/
Biography on Olympics website; https://www.olympics.com/en/athletes/jesse-owens
Black U.S. Olympians won in Nazi Germany only to be overlooked at home: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetorch/2016/08/13/489773389/black-u-s-olympians-won-in-nazi-germany-only-to-be-overlooked-at-home
Race and Sports_ Exposing the hypocrisy of the 1936 Olympics: https://presidentlincoln.illinois.gov/education/educator-resources/teaching-guides/exposing-the-hypocrisy-of-the-1936-berlin-olympics/
Obama Rights Historic Racial Wrong for Olympic Heroes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji-9PimDLRQ&t=142s
Documentary about the other 17 black athletes, Olympic Pride, American Prejudice: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5068938/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_olympic%2520pride%2520
Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/olympic-pride-american-prejudice
American Experience: Jesse Owens (2012 Documentary): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2122879/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_accord_1_cdt_epp_sm_1
Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/jesse-owens
1968 Olympics Black Power Salute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olympics_Black_Power_salute
MOGP:
42: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453562/?ref_=fn_t_1
Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/42-the-jackie-robinson-story
Happy News:
https://gleam.news/stories/monks-complete-2-300-mile-walk-for-peace-to-washington
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
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BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social
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Ready for more Dallin Oaks stuff? First we talk about a letter Joseph Smith wrote to W.W. Phelps. Then we discuss the law review article "Ethics, Mortality, and Professional Responsibility", by Dallin Oaks published October 1975 in the BYU Law Review. For the Sword of Laman, we take a look at the first two chapters of Oaks' book Pure In Heart. We finish it off with some happy news about a judge overturning Trump's block of an off-shore wind project that could power 600,000 homes. Enjoy!
Show Notes:
Letter to W. W. Phelps Jan 11, 1833
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-william-w-phelps-11-january-1833/2#historical-intro
Modern D&C 52
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revelation-6-june-1831-dc-52/2
Ethics, Morality, and Professional Responsibility by Dallin Oaks
http://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1039&context=lawreview
Wickersham Commission
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/wickersham-commission
Criminal Justice in U.S. History
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/criminal-justice-us-history
Sword of Laman: Pure In Heart, by Dallin H. Oaks
Woes of the Pharisees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woes_of_the_Pharisees
Cleansing the Inner Vessel by Ezra Taft Benson (April 1986 GenCon): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1986/04/cleansing-the-inner-vessel?lang=eng
Inspiring Music, Worthy Thoughts by Boyd K Packer (GenCon 1973): https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1973/10/inspiring-music-worthy-thoughts?lang=eng
Worthy Music, Worthy Thoughts (1976 filmstrip): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ5Z6AoEKuY
Richard G Scott in April GenCon 1992: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1992/04/healing-the-tragic-scars-of-abuse?lang=eng
Happy News: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/02/trump-halted-offshore-wind-project-to-proceed
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on The Unpaid Army of God: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de543-d9tME
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
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Well, it's time. Let's talk about President Dallin Harris Oaks, the Hoaks man, the Mormon Gollum. First, we cover the biography In the Hands of the Lord: The Life of Dallin H. Oaks by Richard Turley. Then we take a look at Hoaks' book The Carthage Conspiracy, as well as a presentation from 2021 where he actually uttered a prophecy! And after all that, we share some amazing science news. Researchers at Johns Hopkins have uncovered a surprising new way to influence brain activity by targeting a long-mysterious class of proteins linked to anxiety, schizophrenia, and movement disorders. Enjoy!
Show Notes:
Cyrus Dallin Sculptor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_Edwin_Dallin
Cyrus Dallin: https://dallin.org/about-cyrus-dallin/
Stella Oaks Foundation: https://www.stellahoaks.org/
Law Review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_review
Supreme Court case 1957-1958: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1957
Chief Justice Earl Warren: https://www.oyez.org/justices/earl_warren
The Sit-In: 40 years later: https://chicagomaroon.com/22887/grey-city/the-sit-in-40-years-later/
Studying the Exclusionary Rule in Search and Seizure: https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/studying-exclusionary-rule-search-and-seizure
Why Dress and Grooming Standards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56pD3WMPQao
Talk of the Month: Standards of Dress and Grooming: https://bhroberts.org/records/0spyAV-0Dx8uN/dallin_h_oaks_explains_byu_grooming_standards_in_the_new_era
Internal Revenue Service Investigations of Unidentified Persons, Denver Law Review: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://digitalcommons.du.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2923&context=dlr
United States vs Brigham Young University: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/485/534/1377372/
The Wall Between Church and State: https://archive.org/details/wallbetweenchurc0000oaks/page/n5/mode/2up
MoGP:
Carthage Conspiracy by Dallin Oaks and Marvin Hill
https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p007620
Dallin Oaks Lecture Nov 12, 2021 @ University of Virginia Mormon Studies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0r2YIAsOQs
Happy News: A "dormant" brain protein turns out to be a powerful switch: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260118233607.htm
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
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Welcome to 2026! We start out the year talking to an interesting person — Chris Mitsch — a Professor of Computer Science, whose focus has been on AI ethics. We discuss a variety of technologies known as AI, the limitations, costs, potential uses, who stands to benefit, and a litany of related issues. This leads to our MOGP segment, where we watched A.I.: Artificial Intelligence, of course! And we close the episode with a round-up of good energy news from 2025.
Show Notes:
Papers mentioned during the interview:
Does Liking Yellow Imply Driving a School Bus? By Gonen et. al.
https://aclanthology.org/2025.naacl-long.35/
The Reversal Curse: LLMs trained on "A is B" fail to learn "B is A" by Berglund et. al.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.12288
Seeing like a State by James C. Scott
https://files.libcom.org/files/Seeing%20Like%20a%20State%20-%20James%20C.%20Scott.pdf
The Mechanic and the Luddite by Jathan Sadowski
https://www.ucpress.edu/books/the-mechanic-and-the-luddite/paper
Empire of AI by Haren Hao
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/743569/empire-of-ai-by-karen-hao/
MOGP:
A.I. (Artificial Intelligence)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212720/
Happy News:
https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/clean-energy/clean-energy-renewables-charts-2025
Quackery: A Brief History of the Worst Ways to Cure Everything by Lydia Kang and Nate Pedersen
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
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As per tradition, we're talking all media to round out the year! Our theme is past, present, future; we're discussing what influenced both of us the most in each category. Thanks for hanging out with us this past year!
Shan:
Past: The Witch of Blackbird Pond by Elizabeth George Speare
Present:
The Radium Girls: The Dark Story of America's Shining Women by Kate Moore.
A Woman of No Importance: The Untold Story of the American Spy Who Helped Win World War II, by Sonia Purnell
Sylvia Pankhurst: Natural Born Rebel, by Rachel Holmes
The Sisterhood: The Secret History of the Women at the CIA, by Liza Mundy
The Woman They Could Not Silence: One Woman, Her Incredible Fight for Freedom, and the Men Who Tried to Make Her Disappear, Kate Moore
Ten Days in a Mad-House: The Original 1887 Edition (Nellie Bly's Experience On Blackwell's Island) by Nellie Bly
Nellie Bly: Daredevil. Reporter. Feminist by Brooke Kroeger
The Secret Life of Dr James Barry: Victorian England's Most Eminent Surgeon, by Rachel Holmes
Future: Star Trek
Bryce:
Past: Grand Theft Auto
Present: The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaquui Way of Knowledge by Carlos Castaneda
Future: Age of Disclosure
Show Notes:
History of Grand Theft Auto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poKPUS7pu5Y
The Teachings of Don Juan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Teachings_of_Don_Juan
The Aliens are Here (Again)! A Review of The Age of Disclosure by Michael Shermer
https://www.skeptic.com/article/the-aliens-are-here-again-a-review-of-the-age-of-disclosure/
Skeptic debunks of UFO/UAP videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHDlfIaBEqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuhkVTJ6A_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om0d0u1ASJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64zlyzojpPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsEjV8DdSbs&t=1093s
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
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BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social
Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social
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Yes, the CIA tortured inmates suspected of terrorism in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Two of the primary men involved with creating this program are Mormon, one was called to be a Bishop after taking $81mn from the government to torture people. We discuss the report, how it came to light, some of the key figures along the way, and the fight over the FOIA release of the report in the courts. After that we talk about The Report, wherein Adam Driver plays Dan Jones who led the investigation at the direction of Senator Dianne Feinstein. Then we have some happy news about libraries getting funding that was promised to them.
CW: torture, suicide
Show Notes:
Torture: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture#Punishment
Torture in the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_in_the_United_States#History_of_U.S._Accession
US Senate report on CIA torture "The Torture Report": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Senate_report_on_CIA_torture
The Torture Memos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_Memos
7 Key Points form the C.I.A. Torture Report by Jeremy Ashkenas, Hannah Fairfield, Josh Keller, and Paul Volpe: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/09/world/cia-torture-report-key-points.html
Jay Bybee: The man behind waterboarding, by Randy James: https://time.com/archive/6914445/jay-bybee-the-man-behind-waterboarding/
Bruce Jessen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Jessen
Enhanced Interrogation Techniques: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_interrogation_techniques
Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival,_Evasion,_Resistance_and_Escape
Torture, Ethics, Accountability? By David R Katner: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2791&context=luclj
CIA Paid Torture Teachers More Than $80 Million by Robert Windrem: https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/cia-torture-report/cia-paid-torture-teachers-more-80-million-n264756
Torture victims will bear psychological scars long after CIA report scandal fades: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/13/learned-helplessness-enduring-effects-torture-haunt-victims
The Torture Debate by David Anderson: https://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/2005/12/23/the-torture-debate/21435/
The CIA and the Church: https://mormonr.org/qnas/H2jKm/cia_and_the_church
The senate torture report is a condemnation of Mormon moral reasoning: https://bycommonconsent.com/2014/12/10/the-senate-torture-report-is-a-condemnation-of-mormon-moral-reasoning/
The Role of the LDS church in developing torture by Cherry O Top: https://churchofthefridge.com/role-lds-church-developing-torture/
Mormonism and Torture — Paradoxes and First Principles by Boyd Petersen: chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/69-71_Petersen_torture-3.pdf
Christopher Hitchens tries waterboarding via Vanity Fair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58
Nixon Tapes "Cancer on the Presidency" - Dean and Nixon discussing blackmail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnUJa6uuL_Y
Nixon "I'm not a crook"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCEQP2-qOJk
Electronic Frontier Foundation on OPEN Governt Act
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/01/key-open-government-reform-legislation-becomes-law
ACLU Torture Report landing page
https://www.aclu.org/cases/senate-torture-report-foia
Executive Summary of the Torture Report
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/sites-default-files-documents-crpt-113srpt288.pdf
NPR on Abu Zubaydah
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084161762/supreme-court-rules-against-disclosure-in-torture-case
NSI info sheet on FOIA
https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/nsa/foia/guide.html
Electronic Frontier Foundation on history of FOIA
https://www.eff.org/issues/transparency/history-of-foia
Privacy Act of 1974
https://www.justice.gov/opcl/privacy-act-1974
https://www.justice.gov/opcl/overview-privacy-act-1974-2020-edition
1966 hearing on CIA and FBI invasions of privacy
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-89shrg61406p6/pdf/CHRG-89shrg61406p6.pdf
MOGP: The Report: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8236336/
The portrayal of CIA in 'The Report': Separating Truth from Fiction by Brian Greer https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/portrayal-cia-report-separating-truth-fiction
Happy News:
https://ilovelibraries.org/article/all-federal-library-grants-previously-canceled-by-federal-agency-restored/
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod
Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions
BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social
Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/
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The new apostle for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has taken his seat at the table. Gerald Caussé spent his life in corporate business before his call to the Presiding Bishopric in 2012. In 2015 he ascended to Presiding Bishop and has been the money manager of the church since then. During his tenure, numerous scandals have hit the church related to finances, including a fine from the SEC for falsifying business records to conceal wealth. In the wake of these numerous scandals, Gerald takes his position on the board of the wealthiest religion on the planet. Let's discuss! After that we chat about Catch Me If You Can, a movie about a con man starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Hanks that does a great job of concealing the truth. Then we have happy news about pain management medications and promising research in that field.
Show Notes:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-07-18/how-the-mormons-make-money?embedded-checkout=true
https://religionnews.com/2025/11/07/im-cautiously-optimistic-about-the-new-lds-apostle/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHqt-k5lbrQhddAne7du47HHB6Gfpstoh_gnkML4Mjyb2cciCqUeR9lh0geUR_aem_j1UGWxzM9qQmQJTCjHRRfg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rald_Causs%C3%A9
https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/2/14/21133740/mormon-church-finances-billions-presiding-bishopric-ensign-peak-tithing-donations-byu-real-estate/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_E._Stevenson
https://archive.ph/20130102082820/http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695267801,00.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXbPxIHkijg
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/gerald-j-causse?lang=eng
https://speeches.byu.edu/speakers/gerald-causse/
https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/4636873Z:FP?embedded-checkout=true
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/08/16/lds-churchs-ensign-peak-reports/
https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/feds-fine-mormon-church-5-million
https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2023-35
https://ldsflow.com/the-lds-church-a-year-of-global-service-and-impact-w-infographic/
https://doctorow.medium.com/the-mormon-church-owns-the-most-valuable-property-portfolio-in-america-ff590d405dd6
https://www.livescience.com/18094-perceptions-mormonism-americans-infographic.html
https://exploringmormonism.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Corporate-structure-image-400.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/8nwznm/breakdown_of_the_humanitarian_aid_vs_church/
https://mormonfamily.net/2666/mormons-in-america
https://mormonwiki.com/Farms_Owned_By_The_Mormon_Church
https://mormonwiki.com/Farmland_Reserve
https://github.com/jsoma/data-studio-projects/issues/287
https://mormonbillions.com/
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/feature/templesquare/dining?lang=eng
https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=54478720&itype=cmsid
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-statement-church-finances
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/learn/church-donations-and-reserves?lang=eng
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-finances-and-a-growing-global-church
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-financial-independence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/mitt-romneys-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-campaign/
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/leader/keith-b-mcmullin?lang=eng
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/leader/keith-b-mcmullin?lang=eng
https://www.polynesia.com/packages?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19311784&gbraid=0AAAAAD_ZKoaNHFjLk9c46VTzwjPJppfQq&gclid=Cj0KCQiAoZDJBhC0ARIsAERP-F_GnjI9U3f9gVGjpeQI6kspteXwPXuh-5JdDFi3aiUVpxghq9HZMZgaAnBREALw_wcB
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/8n8dd3/mormonleaks_has_uncovered_13_llcs_limited/
MOGP: Catch Me If You Can: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264464/?ref_=ttpl_ov_bk
Where it's streaming: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/catch-me-if-you-can
Books:
The Greatest Hoax on Earth – Catching Truth, While We Can, by Alan C Logan
Catch Me If You Can: The True Story of a Real Fake, by Frank W. Abagnale and Stan Redding
Frank Abagnale Jr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale
Happy News: A tiny enzyme may hold the key to safer pain relief: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/11/251123085557.htm
Other appearances: Chris Shelton interviewed us in the beginning of a series on Mormonism on his Speaking of Cults series. Our most recent discussion was on the Mountain Meadows Massacre: https://youtu.be/iJWirjCyWdk
He has had MANY different fascinating people on so go take a look! Here is the whole playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpGuS7GcsgA&list=PLGrPM1Pg2h72ADIuv8eYmzrJ-ppLOlw_g
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod
Patreon page for documentary: https://www.patreon.com/SeerStonedProductions
BlueSky: @glassboxpodcast.bsky.social
Other BlueSky: @bryceblankenagel.bsky.social and @shannongrover.bsky.social
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/
Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop
Or find the merch store by clicking on "Store" here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html
One time Paypal donation: [email protected]
Venmo: @Shannon-Grover-10
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