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Something a bit different from A Rational Fear this week — Long time listeners will be familiar with our spin off — The Greatest Moral Podcast Of Our Generation. Today we have a long form conversation with one my favourite climate voices.

This week I sat down with energy and climate journalist David Roberts from the popular climate and energy podcast Volts.

If you don't listen already you can subscribe here.  But I suspect many of you like our podcast producer Jacob Round (from the Teppanyaki Timeline) are big fans.

David is in Australia to do some side events around the ALP Conference in Brisbane later this week. He's here to have conversations with folks on the opportunities that unions, workers, and capital have in the the renewable energy transition.

We cover a lot of territory in 30minutes — including what the ALP should do around climate, and what may happen to the Inflation Reduction Act (big US climate policy) if Trump gets back in. If you listen to us all the time, you may know some of this, however if you're new to the renewable space, this is a good refresher.

Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/KUnvzIP39fd3Jyc5wJe9rEOpF50?utm_source=copy_url

THANKS

To Australian Ethical, Rode, and as I now live outside of the big smoke, big thanks to Dom and Charles at The Chaser for lending me their studio to record this conversation, and thanks to Jacob Round for the fast turn around edit.

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