Doug and Carl have an in-depth conversation with Barbara Zink who is a mother & wife, an entrepreneur, and a personal finance enthusiast who describes herself as a "closet FI person."

Barbara shares her FIRE journey and how cutting back on alcohol consumption has not only resulted in several health benefits, but has also contributed greatly to her financial goals - the money saved from not drinking has helped fund her children's 529 college plans, helped her start an online business, and funded a spousal IRA.

Have you also decided to cut back on alcohol, but don't know what to do with all the savings?  If so, come support us over at Buy Me A Coffee.