Gordon White of Rune Soup returns to talk Magic, ET and neo-liberal social engineering?

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I’m not much of a sci-fi fan.

David (from the movie Prometheus): Am I interrupting, I thought you might be running low?

But maybe I should be more of one.

Charlie Holloway: Pour yourself a glass pal.

David: Thank you, but I’m afraid it would be wasted on me.

Charlie Holloway: You think we wasted our time coming here, don’t you?

That’s a clip from Ridley Scott’s Prometheus.

David: Your question depends on the understanding of what you hope to achieve by coming here.

Charlie Holloway: What we hoped to achieve was to meet our makers, to get answers. Why they even made us in the first place.

And darn, if it doesn’t get right to the heart of the issue.

David: Why do you think your people made me?

Charlie Holloway: We made you because we could.

David: Can you imagine how disappointing it would be for you to hear the same thing from your creator?

Why does it seem like we are compelled to try and “create better than the creator Gods,” as my friend Miguel Conner says. And why do I get so pissed off when I learn that that’s exactly what we’ve been doing?

Alex Tsakiris: They weren’t doing this from a shamanic or a magic perspective, they were doing it, as near as we can tell, “Let’s figure out how the fucking aliens do it and do it the same way. Let’s see if we can break people open in order so that we might perfect this technology.” That’s what intrigues me Gordon, what if there really is a technology component to this? And in that respect, maybe we would look at the shamanic and the magic traditions that you’re talking about in a different perspective.

Gordon White: I would just say, before we talk about the technology thing, if we are comparing the projects there of trying to weaponize these capacities of these children, that is kind of trying to break into the spirit world, and the word shaman is culturally bound, we all know that, we know what we’re talking about.

What you will find in cultures that has this as a function within it, is that the spirits choose them. So, you don’t torture all of the children in a tribe, you find the ones that the spirits have picked and go, “Unfortunately for you my little son or daughter, you’re not going to have a very good life. You get to be the shaman.”

So, as you might have figured out by now, today’s guest is Gordon White of Rune Soup. Someone I feel like I can open up to about all of my deepest, darkest extended consciousness fears and that’s what we do in this interview, along with me doing my usual poking and prodding, but who better to do that with than folks that you genuinely like and respect.

Stick around for my interview with Gordon White.

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