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What happens when we’ve prayed, parented, sought counsel, tried to do everything faithfully—and our child still walks away?
In this deeply personal conversation, Stephanie welcomes Bible teacher and author Erica Wiggenhorn to talk about Loving Your Wayward Child, a book born from Erica’s own painful experience of loving a son through seasons of turmoil and even complete separation.
Together, Stephanie and Erica explore a particularly painful kind of grief: mourning someone who is still very much alive, while never knowing what tomorrow may bring. Erica describes how fear can quietly move us toward isolation, fixation, manipulation, or simply trying to escape the pain. She also challenges the “formulaic Christianity” many of us absorbed—the assumption that if we parent faithfully enough, our children will inevitably make the choices we hoped they would.
But Scripture offers something far deeper than a formula.
From the prodigal son to Cain, Erica traces the presence of a God who remains at work beyond what a parent can see or control. Our children may move beyond our reach, but they never move beyond his.
This conversation makes room for grief without surrendering hope, and for honest questions without abandoning faith. Ultimately, it invites us to entrust both our children and our own wounded hearts to the God who knows the end of the story—and who is tenderly present while we wait.
MORE ABOUT “LOVING YOUR WAYWARD CHILD”
https://ericawiggenhorn.com/lovingyourwaywardchild
For the Mom Who's Been Up Since 3 a.m.
You’ve read the books.
You’ve listened to the podcasts.
You’ve prayed until you ran out of words.
And your child is still walking away.
You’re terrified of saying the wrong thing—so you say nothing.
You feel like a failure, but you can’t admit that to anyone.
Other Christians assume you must have done something wrong.
You haven’t. And you’re not alone.
Most books about wayward children are written after the happy ending. This one isn’t. Erica Wiggenhorn wrote Loving Your Wayward Child while still in the trenches—not knowing how her own story would turn out.
This is not a parenting advice book. You’ve already poured out every last drop of your parenting heart. This is a lifeline for your heart—biblical perspective, emotional tools, and practical strategies to help you stay spiritually grounded, emotionally healthy, and relationally connected to your child when both connections feel impossible.
This book will help you:
· Stay anchored in faith when hope feels foolish
· Recognize the four default reactions that keep you stuck
· Receive courage to make bids for connection– even if you’re afraid your child won’t respond
· Process grief, fear, and shame without drowning in them
· Build practical daily habits that sustain you for the long haul
MORE ABOUT ‘MOMENTUM”
https://ericawiggenhorn.com/momentum/
Your child is going their own way, in a direction you would never choose, leading to disruption and separation in your relationship.
But what if you found a new pathway for connection, where you could both move forward, together?
The Momentum Conference provides a safe place to rest, remember you’re not alone and receive tools and perspective empowering you to stand strong in faith and pursue healthy connection with your child.
God is for you, for your family — and together we can cling to His promises and find hope.
What is the Momentum Conference?
Momentum is a Friday night through Sunday morning getaway with a balance of biblical teaching, practical help, group connection and time to pursue individual rest.
The weekend schedule has been designed to lavish love, impart resources and provide hope to moms who are walking a hard road with their teens, young adult, or adult children.
Freedom to pursue preferential activities provided by the resort promises a time of rejuvenation as well as a mental, emotional and spiritual reset.
MORE ABOUT ERICA WIGGENHORN
Erica Wiggenhorn is a Bible teacher, author, and Proverbs 31 Ministries writer who has spent years helping women encounter God through Scripture. Her Unexplainable Jesus & An Unexplainable Life Bible Studies have been read by thousands of women all over the world in churches, small groups and military installations.
But this book isn’t about her expertise. It’s about her experience.
Erica is a mom whose son’s choices have taken her to places she never imagined—emergency rooms at midnight, months of silence, and the kind of grief that doesn’t have a casserole ministry. She wrote Loving Your Wayward Child not from the other side of a victory lap, but from the middle of the story—because she believes the moms who are in it right now can’t wait for a happy ending to find hope.
When she isn’t traveling the country connecting with women at retreats, conferences or church groups, Erica makes her home in Arizona with her husband Jonathan.
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Some truths can be taught. Others must be lived. Today, Stephanie welcomes Kirby Kelly to discuss the path to confident hope when life is just too much to handle.
When Kirby Kelly was fourteen years old, Jesus stepped into her life, which was marked by addiction, loss, grief, and instability. Her father died from alcoholism. Her mother struggled with addiction for years. Pain was not an abstract theological category; it was the landscape of her childhood.
Yet what emerges from Kirby's story is not a testimony about suffering. It’s a testimony about God.
In this deeply personal conversation, Kirby shares how the Lord has spent years revealing himself as Father, Comforter, Redeemer, and Hope. Drawing from her new book, The Fabric of Hope, she reflects on the surprising ways God weaves redemption through even the most painful chapters of life.
Kirby describes becoming a mother herself. In the exhaustion of postpartum depression, grief over her mother's death, sleepless nights, and overwhelming uncertainty, she found herself returning to the very truths she had written about. What had once been theology became experience. What had once been doctrine became comfort.
Can God really redeem suffering? Kirby's answer is not theoretical. It is rooted in a lifetime of watching God transform wounds into testimonies, grief into compassion, and brokenness into ministry. She shares how her mother's addiction eventually became the doorway through which she repeatedly shared the gospel, ultimately witnessing her mother's surrender to Christ.
This conversation is an invitation to remember. To remember the God who has been faithful before. To remember the God who comforts like a mother and protects like a father. To remember that even when we cannot see what he is doing, he is never absent.
Our story is not ultimately about pain. It is about the God who redeems it.
MORE ABOUT KIRBY KELLY
Kirby Kelly is a speaker, author, podcast host, and content creator based in Dallas, Texas, who has spent over a decade using digital platforms to equip, empower, and engage a global audience with the truth of the Gospel. With a B.A. in Communication and Biblical Studies from Dallas Baptist University and an M.A. in Theology, Kirby has built a ministry that blends theological depth with cultural relevance. Her online presence spans Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and her podcast Bought + Beloved, where she helps listeners and viewers deepen their love for God and knowledge of the Word. Kirby has authored two books with W Publishing: You Can Be Free and The Fabric of Hope. From everyday evangelism to her online uploads, Kirby hopes to see this generation live saved, set free, and sent forth in their unique God-given calling.
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Could God be interrupting your life with hope in the middle of your hardest seasons, stitching meaning into every square inch of the fabric of your story? Kirby Kelly wants to help you find the worth in what seemed like a waste, sweetness to what was once a bitter taste, purpose to your pain, glory to your shame, and relief from the strain of your burdens.
Life has not dealt anyone an easy hand, no matter what we see on social media. We all have our scars and stories, our lemons and our laments. But something delightful, refreshing, and sweet can come out of the hardest seasons when viewed through the lens of God's redemptive plan that is woven throughout the biblical narrative and your individual story. He is the thread that stitches torn things back together making beauty that is worth trusting even when you're still in the thick of the process.
In The Fabric of Hope, Kirby Kelly walks you through her own patchwork life with its unexpected love story, the sudden loss of her mom in the shadow of her graduation and Mother's Day, battling doubt, a family legacy of addiction, and betrayal to finding calling and purpose and synchronicity in God's design to show you the greater story God was stitching together. By showing you how God pieced together the bitter and the sweet she wants to help you:
· reflect on the stories you've lived through and recognize the goodness, kindness, and purpose of God in each chapter
· learn how to cope in the sable clouds and hope in the silver linings of God's great plan for your unique life
· embrace life's beautiful dichotomies of sadness and joy, pain and purpose, ache and wholeness often in a single season
· have permission to exist in both planes of suffering and rejoicing with God
· identify where God was, what He was up to, and how He used each interruption in your life for divine intervention.
· When you take the time to reflect on every place you've been, the seasons you’ve gone through, and each victory and celebration along the way, you might start to notice an interesting pairing. Some of the most joyful, peaceful, hopeful, and beautiful seasons with the Lord actually occur during some of your times of greatest hardship, suffering, change, and inconvenience. Kirby Kelly wants to help you recognize those moments so you can savor what God is up to in the middle of all your seasons.
DISCOVER THE BOOK BEHIND THE PODCAST | "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
Purchase the book, "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle: https://a.co/d/0bqhUb5J
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We’re all living inside stories. The strange thing is, most of the time we don’t know they’re stories.
“You do you.” “Follow your heart.” “Live free.” “Truth is relative.” They can feel less like cultural assumptions and more like oxygen—simply the way things are. In this conversation, Stephanie sits down with Michael Keller, senior pastor of Redeemer Lincoln Square in New York City and son of the late Tim Keller, to ask what happens when we begin noticing the water we’re swimming in. They discuss the book Tim Keller co-authored with Michael before passing.
Michael and his father began working together on a book exploring these cultural narratives before Tim’s death in 2023. What emerged became something more personal for Michael than he expected. They talk about identity that is received rather than achieved, why our culture’s vision of freedom may leave us lonelier rather than freer, and what happens when love slowly becomes synonymous with affirmation.
And then the conversation gets tender. Michael shares what it meant to work among his father’s words after losing the man himself, and what he discovered about grief, fatherhood, and finding in Christ what death seems to have taken away. Stephanie and Michael come at that question from very different experiences with their earthly fathers, yet somehow arrive in the same place: Jesus.
They also explore Tim Keller’s much-discussed approach to culture, which some have labeled as "third way-ism." Michael explains why “affirm, critique, redirect” isn’t an attempt to find a comfortable middle between opposing sides. The gospel stands somewhere else altogether, exposing what is broken while recognizing echoes of goodness and redirecting our longings toward Christ.
So perhaps the question isn’t simply whether we believe the gospel. What stories are we actually living as though they were true?
MORE ABOUT DR. TIM KELLER
Timothy J. Keller (1950–2023) was the founding pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City, cofounder of Redeemer City to City, and the author of numerous books, including The Reason for God, The Prodigal God, and The Meaning of Marriage. His thirty-one books have sold over six million copies and have been translated into twenty-nine languages.
MORE ABOUT DR. MICHAEL KELLER
Dr. Michael Keller is the senior pastor of Redeemer Lincoln Square in New York City, a church he planted with his wife, Sara, in 2017. He grew up in New York as the son of the late pastor, author, and apologist Tim Keller, watching his parents plant Redeemer Presbyterian Church beginning in 1989. Michael earned his undergraduate degree from Vanderbilt University and later received an M.Div. and a Th.M. in Apologetics, magna cum laude, from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. He also holds a Ph.D. from Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, where his work brought computational linguistics into conversation with historical theology. Before planting Redeemer Lincoln Square, Michael served in ministry in London, Queens, and Boston and helped establish an urban Reformed University Fellowship ministry in New York City.
MORE ABOUT “THE STORIES WE LIVE BY” by TIM KELLER AND MICHAEL KELLER
We are the stories we believe. But what if our culture's stories are failing us? The Stories We Live By reveals the hidden cultural narratives that shape us and points the way to the life we've been looking for.
"Do what makes you happy." "Be true to yourself." "Live free." If these slogans promise the good life, why do they so often leave us feeling hollow and empty? Could the very stories our modern world tells us about happiness, freedom, and identity be the source of our growing anxiety and disillusionment?
The culmination of a journey Michael Keller began with his father, beloved pastor and bestselling author Timothy Keller, before his passing, The Stories We Live By unmasks the hidden cultural narratives that shape our lives, often without our knowledge. Examining seven dominant narratives of modern culture--concerning identity, power, freedom, morality, truth, happiness, and progress--the authors show how these stories contain elements of truth yet are built on flawed assumptions and internal contradictions that leave us fragile, divided, and unable to cope with the realities of life.
The Stories We Live By helps us:
For the skeptic, this book offers a challenge to examine the unproven beliefs that drive our lives. For the Christian, it is an essential tool for recognizing where we have unknowingly absorbed cultural narratives that conflict with our faith. And for everyone, it is an invitation to discover a story that is big enough to make sense of both the beauty and the brokenness of the world--a story of grace that has the power to carry us through life's deepest joys and sorrows.
Born from a conversation between a father and son, The Stories We Live By is more than a cultural analysis. It is a guide to finding a truer, more beautiful, and far more satisfying story to live by.
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To awaken our delight in God means not striving harder, but returning—again and again—to the garden of God’s presence. There, rooted in His unwavering delight for us, we cultivate practices that transform both us and those around us for His glory. In this closing episode of our Awaken Delight series, Stephanie explores explore the core themes of awakening delight in God—what it looks like, why it matters, and how we can cultivate it as our spiritual reality.
You are invited to purchase Stephanie’s book on this topic, Awaken Delight, here: https://a.co/d/0625K1AZ
Stephanie Rousselle opens by reflecting on her early Christian days at a Parisian church, noticing how fellow believers exuded a love and delight in the Lord that initially felt foreign yet deeply compelling. This spiritual delight, she observes, stems not from duty, but from truly tasting and seeing God’s goodness (Psalm 37:4). She encourages us to pursue not just knowledge of God, but a transformative, experiential joy in His presence.
Throughout the series, Stephanie introduced ten common spiritual struggles. Which ones do you relate to? Are you…
Each of us may relate to one or more of these journeys. Which character sounds most like your current season? Many of us embody more than one.
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We’ve all experienced the universal hunger for spiritual delight, which can be found in Christ alone. Towards that end, Stephanie introduces the metaphor of the garden—a symbol of paradise in biblical tradition. The garden has various areas, all representing a particular spiritual discipline rooted in Jesus:
As we leave this series:
MORE ABOUT “AWAKEN DELIGHT” BY STEPHANIE ROUSSELLE
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." This is God's promise to you in Psalm 37:4. But many believers quietly assume it's just a poetic suggestion, or it doesn't really work here on earth. In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight in God. It's not emotional hype or religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how delighting in God
Learning to delight in God is the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own hearts.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
Purchase here: https://a.co/d/0625K1AZ
More details at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
What you will (re)discover as you journey with God through Awaken Delight:
Awaken Delight invites you to follow Scriptural truths and spiritual practices that cultivate daily joy in God.
Let’s be completely honest. Are you…
What if the problem isn’t your faith, but the way you’ve been pursuing God? Delight isn’t about effort; it's about learning how to receive God as your deepest joy.
This isn’t extra joy on Sundays. It’s the foundation for deep delight in God which will
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded, Scripture-centered spiritual formation book that helps believers recover a resilient, Christ-centered spiritual life. In short, it's practice for heaven.
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"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart."―Psalm 37:4. But, what if you've lost your delight in God? Or you've never really experienced it in the first place? What if a season of suffering has snuffed out your joy, leaving you spiritually discouraged and emotionally numb?
Delighting in God changes everything: how you experience your faith, relationships, and circumstances―and even how you see yourself.
You can experience Psalm 37:4 as your daily reality. In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle connects scriptural and theological truth to your everyday life so you can experience what delighting in God really means. It's not about checking boxes on a spiritual to-do list or mustering a constant state of positive feelings. Rather, delight is about satisfying your soul's deepest longing through a vibrant relationship with the living God.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle
By looking to Christ as your model of divine delight, you can discover that no matter what you're experiencing―whether weariness, sorrow, hope, or happiness―you truly can "taste and see that the Lord is good." If you are longing for a revived faith filled with hope, delight, worth, and grace, Awaken Delight invites you to cultivate a worshipful, life-giving delight in God that's rooted in God's delight in you.
Purchase here: https://a.co/d/0625K1AZ
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DISCOVER THE BOOK BEHIND THE PODCAST | "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
Purchase the book, "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle: https://a.co/d/0bqhUb5J
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To make a home is to practice the love and delight of God in tangible ways, to welcome others into the comfort we have received, and to see God’s presence in the beauty and mess of both everyday and exceptional moments. The spiritual discipline of hospitality can powerfully awaken our delight in God.
Stephanie Rousselle welcomes her friend Christie Purifoy, author of a stunning new book “A house to call home.” Christie has generously endorsed Stephanie’s new book, “Awaken Delight.” Together they unpack how making a home—whether grand or simple—is an overflow of God’s love and presence in us.
True hospitality starts with receiving. The desire and ability to make others feel seen and cherished comes from first experiencing the love of God. Before hospitality can overflow onto others, we must learn to be at home with God, rooted in His delight in us. Christie says, “it starts with the home that we’re cultivating with God, in your own place, whatever that looks like for you. Start there and then let it be this fountain that flows.”
Hospitality is not about impressing people with perfection, but about making space for Christ to be present to ourselves and our guests. In that way, hosting is imitating Jesus, who makes His home in us and invites us to abide in Him. God’s beauty and comfort are received in tangible ways—through a cozy chair, a beautiful garden, or a shared meal for example.
Home is not made in isolation. Truly memorable gatherings are communal efforts. The most “heaven-on-earth” experiences in hospitality come not from doing everything alone, but by allowing others to contribute their unique gifts. Community is the body of Christ, where everyone offers and receives comfort, blessing, and meaning.
While it’s tempting to focus on making things look beautiful, genuine hospitality puts people, presence, and meaning above appearances. Christie says, “A pretty picture does not a home make...it’s got to be a place for life.” Prayer, listening, and time spent together matter more than an immaculate home. Hosting is about making the table a safe and restful space.
Hospitality thrives in daily routines. Baking pizza, sharing breakfast, or simply inviting someone to sit with us become sacred when it flows from a well-ordered life with God. As in the life of Jesus—who shared picnics and quiet moments—holiness is found in the ordinary when we are present to others.
Home is a place of comfort, even amidst hardship. Christie shares how a personal dream—a home library—became a deep source of God’s comfort during a family crisis. This illustrates the way God meets us in practical, physical spaces to remind us of His presence.
Just as parents rejoice when children enjoy their gifts, God delights in blessing us. Our ability to delight in homemaking, beauty, and hospitality is an earthly practice for the joy of heaven, mirroring God’s own hospitality.
Creating "home" is a spiritual practice deeply rooted in Christian hospitality, personal delight in God, and the beauty of ordinary life.
Some thoughts worth pondering
1. Hospitality Flows from the Home We Receive
2. Jesus as the Center of Hospitality
3. The Power of Community
4. Beauty and Meaning Over Perfection
5. Ordinary Moments as Sacred
6. Making Home in Suffering
7. God’s Delight in Us
A Question to Ponder: How might you cultivate a deeper sense of “home” in your life with God—and let that overflow onto others?
MORE ABOUT "AWAKEN DELIGHT" BY STEPHANIE ROUSSELLE
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." This is God's promise to you in Psalm 37:4. But many believers quietly assume it's just a poetic suggestion, or it doesn't really work here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight in God. It's not emotional hype or religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how delighting in God
Learning to delight in God is the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own hearts.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
MORE ABOUT “A HOUSE TO CALL HOME”
There’s a curious alchemy that transforms a house into a home over time. As we tend to our dwellings with love and intention, something unexpected happens: we discover that the homes we’ve been caring for now have the capacity to care for us.
Inspired by the life of the particular house she knows best, Christie Purifoy offers reflections and practical suggestions for anyone who longs to create a place for rest and healing, for wonder and welcome. Amid insights on the true meaning of comfort, you’ll find decor inspiration, thrifting tips, and homemaking traditions.
Your house can be a haven. It can grow into a sacred place. Care for it well, and year after year it will say, “Welcome home. Always.”
More at https://www.christiepurifoy.com/a-house-to-call-home/
Christie Purifoy is a writer, an avid gardener, and a grateful, self-proclaimed placemaker. Her books include A Home in Bloom, Garden Maker, and Seedtime and Harvest. Christie cultivates beauty for herself and for others at a Victorian farmhouse called Maplehurst in southeastern Pennsylvania.
More at https://www.christiepurifoy.com/
DISCOVER THE BOOK BEHIND THE PODCAST | "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
Purchase the book, "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle: https://a.co/d/0bqhUb5J
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
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Delight in God is not about trying harder, but awakening to what the Spirit is already doing within you. Spiritual disciplines, when fueled by delight rather than duty, become joyful pathways to God's presence. With this in mind, today, Stephanie explores how spiritual routines, while helpful, can drift from vibrant relationship into rote performance if not animated by delight and the Spirit’s leading.
Ready to awaken your delight in God through "Awaken Delight" the book? Purchase it here: https://a.co/d/0625K1AZ
Based on Stephanie’s book, Awaken Delight, together today we will
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Using the French word habit (meaning both “habit” and “clothing”), Stephanie illustrates how habits are like the outfits we choose—some visible, some hidden. Just as we select clothes for comfort or occasion, we "wear" attitudes like praise or cynicism, gratitude or resentment. Good spiritual habits must be intentionally chosen and “worn” daily, but the aim is not outward perfection.
Stephanie suggests that delight is not a discipline itself, but the mindset that enlivens every spiritual discipline. Like a long-lasting marriage, delight requires both initial joy and persistent, intentional commitment.
Awakening delight is the Spirit’s initiative—it is not about finding God as a hidden treasure, but becoming aware of the glory already present. We don’t manufacture spiritual joy by effort; the Spirit awakens what He already plants within us. Spiritual disciplines are windows that open us to God’s light, not machines that generate it. Ask the Holy Spirit to awaken delight within you as you practice spiritual disciplines.
Reflect:
Key Questions:
MORE ABOUT THE BOOK “AWAKEN DELIGHT” BY STEPHANIE ROUSSELLE
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart."―Psalm 37:4
What if you've lost your delight in God? Or you've never really experienced it in the first place? What if a season of suffering has snuffed out your joy, leaving you spiritually discouraged and emotionally numb?
Delighting in God changes everything: how you experience your faith, relationships, and circumstances―and even how you see yourself.
You can experience Psalm 37:4 as your daily reality. In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle connects scriptural and theological truth to your everyday life so you can experience what delighting in God really means. It's not about checking boxes on a spiritual to-do list or mustering a constant state of positive feelings. Rather, delight is about satisfying your soul's deepest longing through a vibrant relationship with the living God.
What you will (re)discover as you journey with God through Awaken Delight:
Awaken Delight invites you to follow Scriptural truths and spiritual practices that cultivate daily joy in God.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle
By looking to Christ as your model of divine delight, you can discover that no matter what you're experiencing―whether weariness, sorrow, hope, or happiness―you truly can "taste and see that the Lord is good." If you are longing for a revived faith filled with hope, delight, worth, and grace, Awaken Delight invites you to cultivate a worshipful, life-giving delight in God that's rooted in God's delight in you.
Purchase here: https://a.co/d/0625K1AZ
More details at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
DISCOVER THE BOOK BEHIND THE PODCAST | "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
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What does it actually mean to delight in God? In this rich and deeply Christ-centered conversation, Stephanie sits down with Geof Morin to explore why delight isn't merely one aspect of the Christian life—it is its very heartbeat.
Geof Morin, who has endorsed Stephanie’s book, Awaken Delight, is the President and CEO of Biblica, a global Bible ministry helping people engage with God’s Word for more than 200 years. Biblica creates and shares life-changing Bible resources that power hundreds of global Gospel ministries.
Beginning with Jesus' parable of the treasure hidden in a field, Geof reminds us that our lives are ultimately an invitation to dig where Christ himself points, discovering a treasure worth joyfully giving everything to possess.
Together Stephanie and Geof explore why delight can never be separated from Jesus, reflecting on Scripture from Exodus to the Gospels, and tracing how the banner lifted by Moses ultimately points to Christ lifted on the cross. Delight, they argue, is not simply an emotion but the fruit of knowing the living God through his Son.
The conversation becomes wonderfully practical as Geof shares how "Bible absorption" has become his primary pathway into delight—not reading for information, but allowing Scripture to reshape the heart. Stephanie adds reflections from Awaken Delight, weaving together the biblical language of delight, deliciousness, thirst, and satisfaction through both English and French imagery.
They also wrestle honestly with suffering, exploring how drought deepens roots, why beauty truly can emerge from ashes, and how God often reveals his glory most clearly in places where hope appears exhausted.
Finally, Geof shares remarkable stories from his work with Biblica, witnessing people encounter Scripture for the very first time in some of the world's hardest places. These moving accounts remind us that the gospel continues to transform lives today with the same power we read about in the book of Acts.
Whether we're standing on a Colorado mountain trail, or sitting quietly with an open Bible, this conversation invites us to taste and see again that the Lord is good—and to discover that delight in God truly is everything.
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"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." This is God's promise to you in Psalm 37:4. But many believers quietly assume it's just a poetic suggestion, or it doesn't really work here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight in God. It's not emotional hype or religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how delighting in God
Learning to delight in God is the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own hearts.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
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"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
Purchase the book, "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle: https://a.co/d/0bqhUb5J
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Many mature Christians experience seasons when Jesus feels distant—not through dramatic sin or faith crisis, but a slow, subtle drift into spiritual dryness. Today, Stephanie explores how to recognize, understand, and rekindle true delight in God when faith feels flat.
As she has with every episode in our “Awaken Delight” series, Stephanie has invented a fictional character – who might feel eerily familiar! In today’s episode, we’re introduced to “Claire”—a faithful, seasoned believer admired by others, with a life marked by steady commitment to Christ, church, and family. Yet, despite external faithfulness, she privately mourns the loss of intimacy and vividness in her spiritual life. Claire’s story demonstrates how even longstanding believers can slide into a functional, uninspired relationship with Jesus—doing all the “right things,” but missing the joy and depth once present.
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Key Symptoms of a “flavorless faith”:
Delight is more than an emotion—it’s the warm, relational savoring of God Himself, not just His gifts or outcomes.
Distinctions:
Delight in God is like savoring real vanilla versus imitation—the fake might have the form, but lacks the richness and depth. When we lose delight, all becomes bland.
Distance from Jesus is often gradual. Common causes include:
When delight cools, our spiritual life becomes transactional, our joy fades, and other things gain center stage in our hearts.
Psalm 34:8 invites us to “taste and see that the Lord is good”—not just agree intellectually, but experience Him proportionally.
Ultimately, delight is about communion—living in God’s presence, savoring Him as the ultimate gift.
Our delight fuels resilience, combats burnout, and makes our faith not merely correct, but alive and fragrant to those around us.
Practical Steps to Awaken Delight
If you, like Claire, feel distant from Jesus, don’t despair. He hasn’t moved; beauty can be rediscovered. Ask God to awaken your delight, to move you beyond belief into joy in His presence. Let your soul savor Him again.
“Restore to me the joy of your salvation.” – Psalm 51:12
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"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart."―Psalm 37:4
What if you've lost your delight in God? Or you've never really experienced it in the first place? What if a season of suffering has snuffed out your joy, leaving you spiritually discouraged and emotionally numb?
Delighting in God changes everything: how you experience your faith, relationships, and circumstances―and even how you see yourself.
You can experience Psalm 37:4 as your daily reality. In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle connects scriptural and theological truth to your everyday life so you can experience what delighting in God really means. It's not about checking boxes on a spiritual to-do list or mustering a constant state of positive feelings. Rather, delight is about satisfying your soul's deepest longing through a vibrant relationship with the living God.
What you will (re)discover as you journey with God through Awaken Delight:
Awaken Delight invites you to follow Scriptural truths and spiritual practices that cultivate daily joy in God.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle
By looking to Christ as your model of divine delight, you can discover that no matter what you're experiencing―whether weariness, sorrow, hope, or happiness―you truly can "taste and see that the Lord is good." If you are longing for a revived faith filled with hope, delight, worth, and grace, Awaken Delight invites you to cultivate a worshipful, life-giving delight in God that's rooted in God's delight in you.
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"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
Purchase the book, "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle: https://a.co/d/0bqhUb5J
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Carol Kent joins Stephanie again to explore the themes of delight, lament, and defiance as we walk with God during life’s hardest seasons. Drawing from personal tragedy and grief, Carol models a Christian posture of joy and hope rooted in God’s character and presence rather than in circumstances. Holding on to God’s presence in both sorrow and joy allows lament, defiant delight, and community to become pathways to deeper intimacy with Him—trusting always that “He is close to the brokenhearted.”
Carol Kent begins by recounting profound personal loss: her son’s incarceration for life after a tragic shooting, her sister’s recent passing from cancer, and the death of a beloved mother-in-law. As Carol says, “If I were the author of my own life, I would not have written all of these chapters into it.” Deep sorrow, grief, and questions are inevitable in this life and unavoidable for the Christian as well. But delight in God can still exist, and even thrive, in the midst of this.
Psalm 37:4 promises, "Delight yourself in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart." It's the foundation for Stephanie's book, Awaken Delight, which Carol generously endorsed. Carol clarifies that delight, unlike happiness, is not circumstantial or fleeting. Instead, it is the ongoing choice to “be at home” in God’s presence, trusting that He is still good even when life falls apart. The Hebrew root of “delight” includes ideas of softness and pliability “being shaped by something”. This allows the believer to rest in God’s love, even wordlessly, when strength or words run out.
Lament is communal as well as personal. She describes the beauty of grieving with her siblings—sharing scripture, encouragement, and family memories during her sister Paula's dying days. Lament is rarely a single event, but a process that comes in waves. Honest lament involves asking hard questions of God and laying out our pain before Him, just as the Psalmists do.
Stephanie, in her book and through this conversation, speaks of defiant delight: a courageous, deliberate act of standing in God’s love and goodness even while fully acknowledging pain. It does not deny reality but declares that God’s love, His delight in us, and His purposes are the final word.
Practices for Cultivating Delight
Delight and lament are communal, just as worship in heaven will be—our delight in God amplified through the delight of others. We experience this now, in part, as we partner together in prayer, service, and celebration, looking forward to perfect joy in God’s presence.
Application:
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He Holds My Hand is a page-per-day 365-day devotional. Based on Scripture, this devotional is written as if God the Father is speaking His words of comfort and protection directly over you, based on the Scripture for the day..
When Carol Kent’s son was sentenced to life in prison without parole, Carol was consumed with grief, sadness, and despair. She was distraught wondering why God permitted this to happen. She had prayed for her son since he was a small child. He had been raised with biblical principles and daily prayer. As Carol tried to make sense of everything, she couldn’t help asking, Where’s God when it hurts so much?
In the middle of her sorrow, Carol turned to the place where she had always gone for comfort―the Bible. She was desperate to hear God’s voice. She soon discovered that the best way for her to “listen” to His voice was to meditate on Scripture and then write out what she believed He was saying. She wrote it as if it was His prayer over her life, and it comforted her. It was as if He took her by the hand, as a father would guide a child, and He gently led her in the direction of unconditional love, renewed hope, and fresh faith.
Know without a doubt that God is with you and stands ready to protect and guide you. He holds your hand, and He won’t let go. Listen to God’s voice and put your hand in His. He is your Comforter, your Healer, your Teacher, and your Joy. Remember He holds your hand, and He won’t let go.
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"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
Purchase the book, "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle: https://a.co/d/0bqhUb5J
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There are moments when delight in God arrives quietly. No plan. No formula. No spiritual checklist. Just a family gathered in a living room, singing old hymns and remembering the faithfulness of God across generations.
In this conversation, Ros Evans and Stephanie Rousselle explore the surprising ways delight awakens in everyday life. Beginning with a spontaneous evening of singing hymns with her parents, Ros reflects on how delight often emerges when truth has taken root deep within us. The conversation moves from cherished memories to a rich discussion about theology, worship, and why knowing God matters so profoundly.
Drawing from John 15, they unpack Jesus’ invitation to abide. Delight is not something we manufacture through effort. It grows naturally from relationship. As we spend time with Christ, we discover that abiding is both a gift and an invitation.
Along the way, Roz shares a vivid story about an unforgettable fragrance—a scent so beautiful it inspired an intentional search. The image becomes a powerful picture of the gospel: once you have truly encountered its beauty, everything else is measured against it.
The conversation also explores the painful reality of pruning. A loving Gardener removes dead branches, but he also trims living ones so that greater fruit can come. Seasons of loss, confusion, and change may feel painful, yet they often reveal the attentive care of God shaping us for eternity.
Through stories of hymns, gardens, horses, friendship, and faith, one message rises above all the others: delight in God is not another burden to carry. It is an invitation to receive. As our eyes remain fixed on Jesus, delight becomes less of a destination and more of a natural response to the goodness of the One who loves us.
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"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." This is God's promise to you in Psalm 37:4. But many believers quietly assume it's just a poetic suggestion, or it doesn't really work here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight in God. It's not emotional hype or religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how delighting in God
Learning to delight in God is the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own hearts.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
DISCOVER THE BOOK BEHIND THE PODCAST | "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle
"Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm 37:4 isn't a poetic suggestion — it's a promise. But many believers quietly assume it doesn’t really work, or it's not really possible here on earth.
In Awaken Delight, Stephanie Rousselle invites you to rediscover what Scripture actually means by delight — not emotional hype, not religious performance, but a steady satisfaction rooted in who God is.
Delight in God isn't a mood to manufacture; it's a relationship to receive.
Through biblical theology and practical rhythms, you'll learn how communion with God reshapes suffering, quiets restless striving, and anchors your identity in something unshakable.
Delighting in God isn’t sentimental optimism. It’s deeply rooted in Christ, Jesus.
It’s the quiet revolution that reshapes how we endure pain, love others, and understand our own heart.
Awaken Delight is a theologically grounded spiritual formation book for thoughtful believers who feel spiritually fatigued and are ready to embrace the reality of Psalm 37:4.
More at https://www.gospelspice.com/awakendelight
Purchase the book, "Awaken Delight" by Stephanie Rousselle: https://a.co/d/0bqhUb5J
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Hungry for deeper intimacy with God? Thirsty to (re)discover His love for you and your love for Him? Ready to embrace your full identity in Christ? Gospel…
How central is delight in God for you right now? Have you recently found yourself less than captivated by your relationship with God? Do the pages of Scripture feel stale and lifeless? Are you looking for a spiritual flavor explosion in your journey with God? Then Gospel Spice is your new secret ingredient.
French host and Bible teacher Stephanie Rousselle invites you to taste and see that the Lord is good, and to (re)awaken your delight in God through Jesus Christ through a fresh experience of Scripture. Could the Christian faith prove more delightful & delicious than you’ve tasted so far? A feast awaits. Begin today!
Join Stephanie and her guests to taste & see that the Lord is good! The Gospel Spice Podcast is ranked Top 1% All Categories globally*, and is listened to from 180+ countries. Over 200 guests include Dallas & Amanda Jenkins, Max Lucado, Bob Goff, Os Guinness, Melissa Dougherty, Jennifer Rothschild, Lee Strobel, Alisa Childers, Sheila Walsh, Joel Rosenberg, Susie Larson, Jonathan Evans, Ruth Chou Simons, Jim Cymbala, Jo Saxton, Curt Thompson, Darlene Zschech, Sandra McCracken, Margaret Feinberg, and so many, many more. When not with her guests, Bible teacher Stephanie Rousselle invites you to delight in God by diving deep into Scripture!
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