Grab Matters Podcast

How do you navigate running a brick and morter pro shop in today's time where Amazon seems to run everything eCommerce? Bill Porter is the founder and owner of Performance Ski and Surf, located in Orlando, Florida. Being in the heart of the towed watersports scene, Bill's shop is the "go to" pro-shop for everything wake and watersports. Although his mom initially tried to get people to convince Bill to not open Performance, he did it anyways, and has had a profound influence on both pro riders and beginners alike. Herb O'Brien's influence, wakeboard tech, online operation vs. brick and mortar, customer service, the most important innovation wakeboarding has seen, selling snow gear, Nautique vs. Mastercraft, and the future of wakeboarding and Performance Ski and Surf. Hear all that and much more in Episode 60 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 1:20 Intro
4:00 Intro to watersports
7:20 Herb Obrien 
10:00 Dealer territories 
15:00 Waterskiing vs. Wakeboarding 
22:30 Wakeboard tech
24:25 More retro boards
26:10 LF’n Wheel of Questions
31:40 GOAT
33:50 Online stores
35:20 Customer service
47:44 Driftline Deserves Some Love
50:00 OWC x Perfski
53:00 Industry shifts
55:00 Gear talk
1:03:20 Ski Boat Covers (Ad)
1:07:20 Selling snow gear
1:13:25 Question from Rusty Malinoski
1:18:40 Grassroots
1:31:10 Being a pro
1:33:10 Nautique to MasterCraft
1:41:30 Most influential 
1:44:00 Future of wakeboarding 
1:53:40 Future of Perfski

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We start off the 5th installment of Shop Talk with the Mount Rushmore of "Worst things that can happen to you on the boat". After that were touching on wakeskating making an appearance at the X Games, who is the best wake photographer, life jacket requirements, optimal cable speed, winch kickers, Wake The City, RGR, a question from Sam De Haan on our thoughts on "grabbing a rail" while riding, Don Pedro, and Violet. We end this episode with all of our gnarliest winching stories, with T.J. having a wild one from winching at a spot in South Florida. 

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Chapters:
00:00 - 27:00 Mount Rushmore
27:25 LF’n Wheel of Questions 
30:00 Best photographer 
35:50 X Games Wakeskating
46:35 Driftline Deserves Some Love
52:50 Instagram Questions
1:15:00 Building a kicker
1:16:30 30km as cable speed?
1:21:00 Fatsac Fast Five Sponsor insert
1:26:00 Event calendar 
1:36:00 PWL Talk
1:48:35 Return of Remote?
1:49:35 Red Bull Wake the City 
1:53:30 RGR
1:59:15 Pardon My Take Wakeboarding
2:09:00 Don Pedro x Spicytv
2:13:30 IWWF Pan Am
2:17:25 New Wake Park in Virginia
2:24:30 Best part in wakeboarding 
2:25:50 Violet
2:32:40 Bussup Bussup
2:34:40 Gnarliest winch stories 

Links:
Chris Roberts at X Games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhyC0w8meaA
Wake The City: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/events/red-bull-wake-the-city/
RGR: https://www.grabmatters.com/rail-garden-rampage
PMT Wakeboarding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukkWGdK4nhg
Don Pedro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0Fh7j9z678
Violet: 
Virginia Wake Park: https://www.slobber.xyz/articles/the-man-behind-the-lake
Tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohcSuZ5IXQ&t=840s
Human Rocket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRoEu0a3iWQ&t=404s
Felix Real Wake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-R0ia0K2BQ

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Did you know Raph didn't hit a single feature in his first 6 months of riding? Hailing from the Philippines, Raph Trinidad got his start riding at a cable where the depth ranged from 6 inches to 8 feet deep, depending on the tide. After choosing wakeboarding over soccer, Raph dedicated his life to being one of the best riders, and now has some of the cleanest and most powerful air tricks in the game. Although he was able to ride year round, Raph found it hard to get sponsor support being in a more remote part of the world. Double flips, winching, living in the U.S. vs Asia, getting on Red Bull, Republic Wake Park, Philippine trivia, favorite parks, and the Tabo. Hear all this and much more in Episode 59 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 1:30 Intro
1:50 Double flips
4:50 Boat riding 
5:15 Winching 
8:15 crail grab
9:15 Moving to America 
12:00 Philippines vs. US
14:00 Coaching
16:00 Getting into wakeboarding
23:55 Influences 
24:30 Sponsors
29:00 Setup
32:20 LF’n Wheel of Questions
37:00 Air tricks
39:45 Contests
41:55 RGR
42:35 Lray
46:00 Red Bull
52:20 Driftline Deserves Some Love
54:20 Republic Wakeboards 
56:40 Republic Wakepark
57:50 Philippine Trivia 
1:01:00 Underrated and overrated tricks
1:05:50 Contests
1:16:00 Favorite parks
1:19:00 The tabo
1:23:00 Thank you’s

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Ready for 4 hours and 20 minutes of one of wakeboardings most passionate riders? Quinn Silvernale helps run one of the most unique and progressive wake parks in the world, Valdosta Wake Compound. Getting started wakeboarding behind the boat on a lake in Minnesota, Quinn knew he loved it. After highschool Quinn attended college at Valdosta State University in Georgia, and that’s where he began to winch much more. From ditches to ponds, Quinn and his friends rode just about everything you could. After more inspiration, him and his roommate Luke Tilt drafted up a business plan to open their own cable park, starting with a couple 2 tower systems, eventually turning into what we have today. Playing football, X Games beef, Lucas Magoon inspo, $800,000 in pool liners, flooding a boat show, sketchy rails, winching vs. cable riding, and what it takes to run a wakepark. Hear all this and much more in Episode 58 of the Grab Matters Podcast, the longest one yet.

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Chapters:
00:00 -1:00 Intro
2:00 Wakepants
2:50 Wakeboard stigma 
8:40 Favorite grab 
13:00 Gifts from Quinn 
17:00 Early days
28:00 Football
33:00 College
40:00 Early winching
51:00 Rail riding
1:03:00 LF’n Wheel of Questions 
1:10:00 Gravity research 
1:23:00 FISE
1:30:00 Sponsors
1:48:00 Video parts
1:55:00 VWC
2:13:00 Aqua Park
2:18:20 Land gaps
2:22:40 VWC
2:27:00 Wakeboard vs. Wakeskate
2:28:00 Relationships vs. Business
2:40:00 Driftline Deserves Some Love
2:43:20 Real Wake
2:56:00 Getting a pro model
2:59:45 VWC
3:04:30 Movies
3:08:20 Argentina
3:16:20 TCTMTT
3:22:00 Winching
3:25:00 Sketchy rails
3:29:30 Boat show flood
3:48:15 Being a father
3:55:55 The future
4:14:00 Thank you’s

Links:
The Coalition The Sequel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5h8rZk0d30&t=1054s
Valdosta Wake Compound: https://www.valdostawakecompound.com/

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Freddie Winter is one of the best slalom waterskiers in the world, and isn't afraid to stand up for what is right within the sport. Having put his money where his mouth is when it comes to a unified Pro Tour, Freddie is doing a lot for the sport both on the water and behind the scenes. Growing up skiing at Thorpe Lakes in the U.K., Freddie was ecstatic to ski in college in America, and continued to progress his skiing until he became one of slaloms best competitors. Nerdy waterskiers, getting banned from the Masters, the best crasher on tour, Victor Wenbenyama, the Waterski Pro Tour, and what makes TWBC so good. Hear all that and much more in Episode 57 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 2:00 intro
4:00 Favorite grab…?
7:50 Getting into waterskiing
10:00 Trick Skiing
12:20 Evolution of Freddies’ setup
19:00 Banned from Masters
41:00 Waterski Pro Tour
45:00 TWBC
49:00 LF’n Wheel of Questions
55:00 Winter trivia
57:10 Setup
1:04:00 Best possible run?
1:09:00 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:11:30 Worlds
1:14:00 How many pro’s are there?
1:17:00 Boat sponsors
1:23:50 Patreon Question 
1:30:00 Waterski Brands
1:33:20 Guest Questions
1:51:00 The future
1:57:00 Waterski Pro Tour

Links:
Pass The Handle: https://passthehandle.com/ 
Tobias X Waketoolz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qulqShbdZK8 
Ball of Spray Forum: https://www.ballofspray.com/forums/topic/53009-does-pro-water-skiing-need-%E2%80%9Cjohn-mcenroe%E2%80%9D-characters-or-not/#comment-870023 
TWBC: https://www.waterskibroadcasting.com/ 
Waterski Pro Tour: https://www.waterskiprotour.com/

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Kevin Michael, mostly known as “Kevco”, has been in and around the wakeboard and waterski industry for decades, helping shape the sports we know today. From working at Wakeboarding Mag during the peak years of wakeboarding, to lobbying on the steps of capitol hill, Kevco has put countless hours into turning wakeboarding and waterskiing into legitimate and respected sports. With those years helping run one of wakeboardings biggest publications comes with countless stories of shenanigans and unrivaled times celebrating some of the sports greatest icons and their achievements. Boardstock ‘96, skiboarders vs. wakeboarders, Alliance vs. Wakeboarding Mag, lobbying at congress, Randall Harris, Wake Awards, Wakeboarding in the Olympics, and Kevco’s newest position at USA Waterski and Wake. Hear all that and much more in Episode 56 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

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Chapters:
00:00 - 2:00 Intro
2:30 Favorite Grab
3:30 Wakeboarding Mag
5:20 Blue mind theory
7:20 Boardstock ‘96
10:00 Getting into watersports
21:20 Skiboarders vs. Wakeboarders
24:25 Wakeboarding Mag
32:00 Alliance vs. WBM
34:30 LF’n Wheel of Questions
45:00 Wakeboarding Mag
1:03:15 Driftline Deserves Some Love
1:05:20 Guest Question
1:06:00 Lobbying at congress
1:11:00 Cassette
1:14:00 Thomas Horrell
1:15:00 Patreon Question
1:21:00 Digital media
1:23:20 Transworld Wakeboarding
1:29:20 Wakeboarding as the 4th board sport 
1:30:30 Randall Harris
1:36:00 Wake Awards
1:47:00 Judging
2:00:00 Olympics 
2:06:00 Red Bull Wake Lab
2:08:50 Influential Events
2:09:00 Most influential rider
2:15:40 Setup
2:23:00 US Waterski and Wake
2:38:00 Thank you’s

Links:
Waterski Triple Jump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l8il5MDvAI&t=340s

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After just recently coming back from a significant amount of time off the water due to a misdiagnosis on an injury to his ankle, we sit down with one of boat ridings most fierce competitors, Cory Teunissen. Cory grew up in Australia and got into wakeboarding with his family at a young age, and made his first trip to the U.S. at age 11. When Cory is healthy and on the water, he can be a favorite to win at most boat contests. The longest game of W.A.K.E. ever, getting paid as a 13 year old, his ankle injury, the next NBD to be landed, the Cory vs. Nic Rapa rivalry,  and switching board sponsors after a decade with one brand. Hear all that and much more in Episode 55 of the Grab Matters Podcast.

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Chapters:
00:00 - 2:00 Intro
2:50 Park riding 
3:30 Aaron Gunn
5:25 Favorite grab
5:50 Mike Dowdy question 
7:45 Getting into wake
11:45 First time in the U.S
15:15 First sponsor
19:20 Families involvement 
24:00 Dowdy’s influence
27:05 LF’n Wheel of Questions
28:30 Ankle Injury
37:40 This or That
41:30 NUMB
47:00 Next NBD
54:00 Will you ever stop riding?
58:50 Driftline Deserves Some Love
1:02:45 Switching board sponsors
1:12:10 Setup
1:13:50 Foiling
1:20:20 This year
1:24:50 Nic vs. Cory
1:44:30 America vs. Australia
1:51:00 What gets you stoked on wakeboarding?

Links:
Game of wake: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4qp93u
Hyperlite signs Cory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE97fY16dhE

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Is Fynn Bullock the only person in the world to get paid to snowboard and wakeboard? From a young age Fynn was into tons of sports, but standing sideways was where he felt at home. We dive into the differences of the two industries and how Fynn navigates each season when it comes to contests and travel. Sponsors, cutting boards to a smaller size, fin trivia, eating only ketchup sandwiches, Masters, Olympics vs. X Games, and coaching. Hear all that and much more in Episode 54 of the Grab Matters Podcast! 

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Chapters
00:00 - 1:30 intro
3:30 Favorite grab
4:40 Snowboarding or wakeboarding 
8:30 Early days
11:00 Getting into wakeboarding 
14:40 Cutting down boards
22:30 Hyco lake story
28:00 Coaching 
37:25 LF’n Wheel of Questions
41:00 Fin Trivia
45:50 Driftline Deserves Some Love
46:50 Snowboarding vs. Wakeboarding 
56:00 Getting back into riding
1:00:00 Hardest tricks
1:03:00 Patreon Question from Liam Brearley
1:08:50 Travel
1:11:00 Pro model board
1:19:20 Diet
1:21:25 Olympics vs. X Games
1:24:00 Speaking Spanish
1:26:50 Setup
1:28:10 This season
1:34:40 Patreon Questions 
1:45:00 What gets you stoked?

Links:
Beyond Perception: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiaVBkxg-ww
Mike Dowdy Makes Moves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwxop08LyUk
All In: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mSBtxI4E9A
Who is Fynn?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aji9IZKsUaA

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In Episode 4 of Shop Talk the boys sit down and chat current wakeboard happenings from throughout the world. We start off by watching the new Alliance movie from Cole Vanthof, Citrus. Then we catch up with Thomas on how Masters went, do a preview of the PWT, check out the Zillow listing for the Lake Ronix house, take a look at some of the worst slams ever on a wakeboard, debate what the next NBD will be on the cable and boat, as well as much more in Episode 4 of Shop Talk. 

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Chapters 
13:00 Worst slams
19:00 2025 Team shoots
27:10 Masters
32:30 Massis wrapped tootsie 
34:00 Guenther is back 
36:00 LFn wheel of questions 
49:30 Snow & Wake
57:00 Grassroots events 
1:01:50 Another triple flip?
1:07:05 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:13:00 Lake Ronix For Sale 
1:20:20 Tom Brady and Mark Zuckerberg 
1:23:30 Viral clips 
1:25:34 Where does wakeboarding feel alive?
1:27:10 Wake The City

Links:
Citrus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeJKgrodnM&t=48s
The Coalition The Sequel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5h8rZk0d30&t=1031s
RGR: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C668JuJO44Q/
Broken Record Tour: https://terminuswakepark.com/brokenrecordtour/
30 Something: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=606749092829941
In All Seriousness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUJRTQGVJB8
Lake Ronix For Sale: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/22428-E-Colonial-Dr-Christmas-FL-32709/337963402_zpid/

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Dean Smith is a former professional wakeboarder from Australia, and has been known for being on a short list of riders who truly go "big". Dean got a later start than most when getting into wakeboarding, and never truly grew up with a consistent coach, rather just riding with friends and occasionally heading to ride at Black Diamond. After a somewhat surprising win at the Asian X-Games, Dean's career started to takeoff. Crashing a car and boat in one year, getting cut by his boat sponsor, P.E.D's, beef with Phil Soven, video parts, the future of contests, Wakestock, and retiring on his own volition. Hear all that and so much more in Episode 53 of the Grab Matters Podcast!

Chapters
00:00 -2:00 Intro
2:30 Shirt over vest?
4:20 Murray lookalike 
6:20 Early days
11:20 First sponsors 
13:20 First crowmobe
20:00 Asian X Games
25:30 School or wakeboarding?
28:00 First season in the US
32:00 Sponsors
35:50 Guest question
37:00 Sinking a boat
40:00 Totaling a car 
45:30 LF’n Wheel of Questions
48:00 Wakestock Canada
51:00 Randall at Wakestock
57:30 Events
1:07:20 Biggest win
1:15:00 PED’s
1:20:00 Quitting wakeboarding
1:23:45 Renting a car to buy a car
1:37:00 Back 7’s
1:40:50 Women’s riding
1:44:00 Driftline “Deserves Some Love”
1:50:00 J Star team movie 
1:55:40 Phil Soven (coming up…)
2:04:00 Patreon question
2:15:10 Kicker session Radar lake
2:20:00 Quiet Please
2:22:50 Sponsors
2:29:00 Getting cut
2:36:20 30 Something 
2:56:00 The Future
2:58:00 Setup 
3:00:30 Retirement 
3:08:00 What gets you stoked?

Links to Insert
Quiet Please: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7t7cya
30 Something: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=606749092829941
Day in the life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6BwJdbYTQU

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