Rick opens the show with commentary on the House hearings on the withdrawal from Afghanistan and how partisan players will never be able to come to a reasonable assessment of it. Then we are joined by Jill Rosenthal of the Center for American Progress to discuss vaccine mandates in the workplace as a prerequisite for access to Medicare and Medicaid. We close the first hour with Anat Shenker-Osorio of ASO Communications for a discussion about progressive messaging – what it gets right, and what it needs to do better.