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On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Greg Toppo and Jim Tracy, co-authors of the new book, Running with Robots: The American High School's Third Century.

Greg Toppo is a journalist who has covered education for more than twenty years. He is also the author of The Game Believes in You: How Digital Play Can Make Our Kids Smarter.

This is Jim's second time on the podcast. Jim is a Stanford trained historian, and a Senior Advisor at JFF who has been head of several independent schools.

Let's listen in as they discuss education in the year 2040, AI and much more.