The one and only Phoenix Carnevale fills in for Jim Norton on today’s episode of UFC Unfiltered; a show that features two guests in UFC middleweight Gregory “RoboCop” Rodrigues and comedian Sam Tripoli.

Bonding over their love for jiu-jitsu, Rodrigues begins the show by explaining to Matt Serra why an 8-time Brazilian jiu-jitsu national champion has seen most of his recent MMA fights end by knockout.

Rodrigues ends the interview by previewing his fight on Saturday’s main card against well-rounded middleweight veteran Brad Tavares.

Then, Sam Tripoli hops on for his second-ever appearance on UFC Unfiltered. Already an experienced Krav Maga practitioner himself, the Los Angeles-based comedian goes on to explain that he has rediscovered his passion for jiu-jitsu at his good friend Eddie Bravo’s 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu.

Matt ends the interview by getting Tripoli to share his favorite conspiracy theories.

Finally, Matt and Phoenix wrap up the show by breaking down and predicting some of the matchups atop Saturday’s UFC Fight Night: Hermansson vs. Pyfer card.