Trigger Warning: Death, grief, suicide, child loss, burial, cremation, cadavers.

Episode eleven of the third season of Grey Maybe welcomes fourth generation funeral director and co-host of the "Let's Talk About Death" podcast, Benny Capaul. Benny talks about the emphasis of empathy in the funeral home business. He discusses the difference between grief and mourning and the importance of the ceremonial aspects of saying goodbye.

Benny Capaul IG: https://www.instagram.com/Benny2shoes

Let's Talk About Death Podcast IG: https://www.instagram.com/letstalkaboutdeathpodcast

Let's Talk About Death Podcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkaboutdeathpod

Capaul’s Corner on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6nCqSiBtSvi-YGVmRPJ6pA

The Boy Detective On Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/artist/1Wg6C1V1OT7fg3amvlOJyP?si=SXC-ZIeeRFaRBB4y9pEFnA

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Six Feet Under Suicide prevention non-profit: https://www.sixftover.org/

Gabby’s Grief Center: https://www.gabbysgriefcenter.org/

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving:

https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

"Disenfranchised grief": https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Psychology Today Database: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis, text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Mentioned in this episode:

"Six Feet Under": https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0248654/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

"My Girl": https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102492/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Elizabeth Kubler-Ross Stages of Dying: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507885/

Caleb Wilde IG: https://www.instagram.com/confessions_of_a_funeral_dir

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12egAM5EvxvFiWnRNPk0Mk11-lNRSTMJ1/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death, grief, end of life care.

In episode ten of the third season of Grey Maybe, director, choreographer, and performer Raymond (Ray) Del Barrio shares his experience caregiving for several people close to him, including his late father, composer George Del Barrio. He speaks on his outlook on life and what doesn't work when navigating grief.

Raymond Del Barrio IG: https://www.instagram.com/ramondb

Raymond (Ray) Del Barrio Website: http://ramondelbarrio.com/

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving:

https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

"Disenfranchised grief": https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Psychology Today Database: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis, text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

California Caregiver Resource Center: https://www.caregivercalifornia.org/2021/02/11/support-groups/

Family Caregiver Alliance: https://www.caregiver.org/connecting-caregivers/support-groups/

23 Best Caregiver support groups online and in-person: https://www.aplaceformom.com/caregiver-resources/articles/caregiver-support-groups

Mentioned in this episode:

Oscar winning short "West Bank Story" Choreographed by Raymond Del Barrio: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438575/

Frankie Valli IG: https://www.instagram.com/frankievallifourseasons

Chita Rivera IG: https://www.instagram.com/therealchitarivera

"Sisterella": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisterella

Solid Gold: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Gold_(TV_series)

Whitney Houston IG: https://www.instagram.com/whitneyhouston

Michael Jackson IG: https://www.instagram.com/michaeljackson

Bob Fosse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Fosse

Keith McDaniel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_McDaniel

Marin Mazzie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marin_Mazzie

George Del Barrio: https://www.discogs.com/artist/396088-George-Del-Barrio

Raymond Del Barrio’s Family: http://georgedelbarrio.com/family-music-history/

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rrWkAF7eKOUgq-CQZYLywO3dsyCP8zNu/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death, grief, cancer, sudden death.

Episode nine of the third season of Grey Maybe is with ex-professional dancer, TikTok influencer and mom Cara Lidberg. Cara speaks on grief transparency, how she navigated the death of her parents, and how she helps her children understand death and grief.

Cara Lidberg IG: https://www.instagram.com/caralidberg

Retired Professionals TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@retiredprofessionals

Snapshots of Life After Loss IG: https://www.instagram.com/snapshotsoflifeafterloss

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Book Cara Mentioned: "Signs" by Laura Lynne Jackson: https://a.co/d/a0NffBn

Additional Book Recommendation "The In-Between: Unforgettable Encounters During Life’s Final Moments" by Hadley Vlahos R.N.: https://a.co/d/3MME3jZ

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving:

https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

"Disenfranchised grief": https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Psychology Today Database: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jQ-e_jaOOGGt5CJx7tdHX8tHNLyiveAx/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death, grief, pregnancy, miscarriage, pregnancy loss, stillbirth.

In episode eight of the third season of Grey Maybe, photographer Mia Andreoli shares about the loss of her daughter Rosalie Grace, how she endured, what she learned, and her mission to help others who experienced the loss of a child.

Mia Andreoli IG: https://www.instagram.com/mia_staygold

Mia Andreoli Website: https://www.staygoldimages.com

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Pregnancy After Loss (PALS): https://pregnancyafterlosssupport.org/

Miss Foundation: https://www.missfoundation.org/

PALS Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/706588959379371/

Postpartum Support International: https://www.postpartum.net/

Book Mia Mentioned "Beauty In The Breaking: Reflections on Stillbirth" by Amanda Mageras: https://www.amazon.com/Beauty-Breaking-Reflections-Stillbirth-memoir-ebook/dp/B00XCWN7RQ

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving:

https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

"Disenfranchised grief": https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Psychology Today Database: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Mentioned in this episode:

Eva La Dare IG: https://www.instagram.com/evaladare

Nikki Dalonzo IG: https://www.instagram.com/cre8cure8

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1km6Y-BcLK26Ni5ly9bjfMRXP9o6nqiJT/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death, grief, cancer, homicide.

Episode seven of the third season of Grey Maybe welcomes back professional dancer and certified yoga therapist (C-IAYT) Melissa Adylia Calasanz. Melissa recounts her brother's sickness and death, the shocking homicide of her neighbor, and the journey of healing her grief and PTSD.

The book Melissa mentioned "Stiff" by Mary Roach: https://www.amazon.com/Stiff-Curious-Lives-Human-Cadavers/dp/0393881725/

Melissa Adylia Calasanz C-IAYT IG: https://www.instagram.com/melissaadylia

Melissa Adylia Calasanz Pause Breath Smile IG: https://www.instagram.com/melissaadyliapausebreathesmile

Let’s Talk About Death Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2PllctgS4NvUDr1f5Rdkg0?si=0e5ee960ee084c2b

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving:

https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

"Disenfranchised grief"

https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Psychology Today Database: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Mentioned in this episode:

Matt Dickens

Charlie Barns

Claude Thompson

Dana Wilson IG: https://www.instagram.com/danadaners

Dana Wilson’s Podcast "Words That Move Me": https://open.spotify.com/show/0LLWJ3dfbdtkcOolCK57oW?si=ed738079307c44a3

Mike Evans IG: https://www.instagram.com/nativeplantmike

Tree Of Life Nursery IG: https://www.instagram.com/treeoflifenursery

Hama’s Dance Center IG: https://www.instagram.com/hamasdance

Nicholas Palmquist IG: https://www.instagram.com/nicholaspalmquist

Lisa Biagini IG: https://www.instagram.com/lisabiagini212

Michelle Elkin IG: https://www.instagram.com/michelleelkin

Steps On Broadway IG: https://www.instagram.com/stepsonbroadway

The Performing Arts Center IG: https://www.instagram.com/performingartscenter

Episode Transcribed with Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EEs-K73OfhHJq3-_qvHTFn4T5cVPpdNk/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death, grief, near death experience, cancer.

In episode six of the third season of Grey Maybe, professional entertainer, podcast host and realtor Terri Yates shares about her experience caregiving for her late mother and how she navigated her loss.

Terri Yates IG: https://www.instagram.com/terriyates23

Terri Yates Podcast "Enlightened Curiosity" on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0n6NeEmAMZmquLFWebyDDQ?si=f1d258cefda841cd

Mentioned in this episode:

Sir Mix-A-Lot - "Baby Got Back": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X53ZSxkQ3Ho

Janet Jackson - "Rhythm Nation": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAwaNWGLM0c

We Spark Cancer Support Center: https://wespark.org/

The Foundation For Living Beauty: https://www.livingbeauty.org/

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving:

https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

"Disenfranchised grief"

https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Psychology Today Database: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d5sAqPEADsTJisBv6Dtp0aVvbJiL1ojW/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death, grief, Alzheimer’s.

In episode five of season three of Grey Maybe, artist and filmmaker Mēsha Kussman discusses the death of her father, the recent death of her mother, and the complicated emotions that accompany grief.

Mēsha Kussman Website: https://www.meshakussman.com

Mēsha Kussman IG: https://www.instagram.com/meshakussman

Kate Wolf - "Medicine Wheel": https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21284430/fullcredits

"This One Is For You" IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21284430/fullcredits

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving: https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

‘Disenfranchised grief’: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Find A Therapist Here (Psychology Today Database): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pqnq5wqbqiF4wqYxz99-CgwHdC18mrlv/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death and grief.

In episode four of the third season of Grey Maybe, Jaayda Ellingham, licensed psychotherapist and LMFT talks about why the five stages of grief are bulls**t, how to process grief, and explains complicated or ambiguous grief.

Jaayda Ellingham M.A. LMFT IG: https://www.instagram.com/jaaydatherapy

Jaayda Ellingham M.A. LMFT Website: www.jaaydatherapy.com

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving: https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

‘Disenfranchised grief’: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Find A Therapist Here (Psychology Today Database): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ne1bl85VRhMlnn6qPR7uEp9vlE83b6rR/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death and grief.

In episode three of season three of Grey Maybe, entertainment company powerhouse Abbi Puanani recounts her experiences after the death of her mother. She talks about what worked for her, what didn't, and how she keeps her mom's memory alive.

Abbi Puanani IG: https://www.instagram.com/abbipuanani

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Mentioned in this episode:

Concrete Entertainment Group: https://www.instagram.com/concreteentgroup

Miss Dakota: https://www.instagram.com/djmissdakota

Brittany O’Connor: https://www.instagram.com/brittanyoconnor_

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving:

https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

‘Disenfranchised grief’: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Find A Therapist Here (Psychology Today Database): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Episode Transcribed by Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ue5SKce7bt-uj60tfWHaKqXZtvBrj0u4/view?usp=sharing

Trigger Warning: Death, brain cancer, sudden death.

In episode two of season three of Grey Maybe, professional dancer Julie Schmid talks about caregiving, becoming a young widow, and her journey through grief.

Julie Schmid IG: https://www.instagram.com/juliepschmid

Grey Maybe IG: https://www.instagram.com/greymaybepodcast/

Grey Maybe TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@greymaybepod

Jillian Schmitz IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianschmitz/

Jillian Schmitz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jillianschmitzofficial

Mentioned in this episode:

Keith Young: https://www.instagram.com/therealkeithyoung

Sharon Young: https://www.instagram.com/sharonferrolyoung

Dominique Kelley: https://www.instagram.com/Domkelley

Do’s and Don’ts for supporting a person who is grieving: https://mygriefandloss.org/dos-and-donts-guidelines-for-supporting-a-griever

The support group Julie mentioned: Cancer Support Los Angeles - https://www.cancersupportla.org/

The support group Jason, Julie’s husband, attended: https://wespark.org/support-groups/

Brain Tumor Support Conversations: https://braintumor.org/support-services/support-groups/brain-tumor-support-conversations/

Best BrainTumor Support Groups: https://www.verywellhealth.com/best-brain-tumor-support-groups-4842900

Brain Cancer Caregiver Support Group: https://www.cancercare.org/support_groups/100-brain_tumor_caregiver_support_group

‘Disenfranchised grief’: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/disenfranchised-grief/

Find Sliding Scale therapy in California: https://health.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/documents/SoCal%20Scale%202.pdf

Find A Therapist Here (Psychology Today Database): https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

If you are feeling suicidal or in crisis text or call 988.

National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA): https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Episode Transcribed By Headliner.app Here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q-l8Z7xRMWPQjkY7C0H0pDUn1cmQhjig/view?usp=sharing