Father Michael Hurley, OP joined Patrick for a conversation about grief and loss during the holidays. Topics included: grief during the holidays (3:55), suffering and God's plan (6:40), grief as a help from God (13:20), caller: my mom passed away this year (19:30), Jesus present during suffering (21:53), email: we lost our dad last year (26:24), caller: accepting loss is important (30:22), caller: losing my mom really hurt (37:21), caller: I lost my daughter to a drunk driver (41:28), caller: I struggle with a loss of vocation (45:53).