Listen as Madrona Director of Talent, Shannon Anderson, and the founder of Reverb, Mikaela Kiner, sit down for a wide ranging and fascinating conversation about building a workplace that supports your mission, how startup founders hate “HR” but want good people (and culture), and why even Mikaela had to consult an expert to understand why she was having trouble building a diverse team.  They bring personal stories to illustrate how the lessons from Mikaela’s new book, Female Firebrands, are experiences they have lived through. Some great tips in here for startup founders who are looking to build an organization that lasts!