Halloween season always brings a little drama — and this year’s All Apologies “Hallowiener Special” does not disappoint.

Host Andy Hynes welcomes Jenny Jingles from Who Are These Podcasts for a conversation that starts in the glittering world of the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show and spirals into some of the darker, less pink, corners of its legacy. Together they revisit Bella Hadid’s heartfelt apology about her performance due to Lyme disiese, who's boyfriend is making a spectacle and why the fashion show is no longer at the height of it's power. AND the uncomfortable truth about Jeffrey Epstein’s link to Les Wexner, the billionaire behind the brand. From their houses in Ohio to the involvement of his wife and children.

But it’s not all skeletons and scandals — the discussion also dives into the new wave of TikTok creators like Sofia Rain and the Bop House girls, who are redefining how adult performers manage their online presence. The audition process for members like Julia and Camilla and MORE. With smart marketing, tongue-in-cheek humor, and a surprising sense of wholesomeness, they’re proving that you can have a PG feed and an X-rated brand.

Whether you come for the fashion, the controversy, or the candy, this Halloween episode delivers tricks, treats, and a few apologies along the way.

Listen now wherever you get your podcasts — and don’t forget to bring your sense of humor (and maybe a flashlight).