Abby from "On Being A Police Officer" rounds out the third and final part of her extensive interview with Jon-- who shares stories about proper care for inmates facing execution at the hands of the state and other fun stories.

Abby from "On Being A Police Officer" continues her interview of Jon, who talks how inmates manipulate and prey on officers, to bring about the destruction of not only their careers, but very often their personal lives.

Abby Ellsworth from the podcast "On Being A Police Officer" is a civilian who seeks to reveal the truth of the lives of those in law enforcement. Jon appeared on her episode #41, and now Abby is back to return the favor in the first of a multi-episode interview.

In 2018, a transport officer was tasked to transport two inmates to a mental-health care clinic in the midst of Hurricane Florence. The two inmates were held by court order as dangerous to themselves and others. The transport officers, following directions from their supervisors and national guard deployed the disaster area became trapped in floodwaters. They stayed with the vehicle and attempted to release or rescue the inmates inside the van but were unable to. The inmates both drown. An officer involved have been convicted of deliberate indifference and faces the rest of his life in prison.