In this engaging episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, Jake sits down with Bobby Eckert, a fire captain from Camden, New Jersey, with nearly three decades of fire service experience. Bobby shares insights into his journey as a second-generation firefighter, the origins of his renowned training company, Eckert Fire Tactics, and his philosophy of street-smart firefighting. The conversation delves into everything from fire station culture to the challenges of teaching practical firefighting tactics. This episode offers both humor and deep expertise for anyone in or curious about emergency services.

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• [0:00 - 1:35] Introduction:
• Host introduces Captain Bobby Eckert and his extensive fire service background.
• Overview of Bobby’s contributions to fire service training nationwide through Eckert Fire Tactics.
• [1:36 - 3:19] The Wheel of Stupid Questions:
• Bobby shares his favorite action star (Arnold Schwarzenegger) and the influence of Terminator 2 on his childhood.
• [3:20 - 6:31] Early Days in Firefighting:
• Bobby recounts growing up in the firehouse as the son of a firefighter.
• Memories of smells, camaraderie, and first fires, including his early involvement as a junior firefighter.
• [6:32 - 12:09] Career Transition to Camden:
• Bobby discusses his move from Collingswood to Camden and the transition to a demanding urban firefighting environment.
• Reflections on Academy training, probationary periods, and his first experiences in Camden.
• [12:10 - 15:46] Eckert Fire Tactics:
• The origins of Bobby’s training company and its focus on practical, hands-on firefighting skills.
• Insight into the “Taken to the Streets” training program and its mobile, comprehensive approach.
• [15:47 - 22:58] Street Smart Firefighting Philosophy:
• Bobby breaks down his “street smart” ideology, emphasizing adaptability, proven techniques, and practical solutions for real-world challenges.
• A candid discussion about resistance to evolving firefighter training methodologies.
• [22:59 - 29:48] The Tool Controversy:
• Bobby addresses the social media uproar over his comments on tool usage, including the infamous “New York hook” post.
• Reflections on fire service culture, professional disagreements, and internet criticism.
• [29:49 - 32:26] Tool Selection and Strategy:
• Detailed discussion on selecting the right tools for different firefighting scenarios.
• Bobby shares his preferences for tools based on building types and operational roles.
• [32:27 - 36:15] The Future of Eckert Fire Tactics:
• Bobby talks about upcoming projects, including new training programs and the anticipated third installment of his book series, Tuesdays are for Tactics.
• A brief detour into discussions about unidentified drones in South Jersey.
• [36:16 - End] Closing Remarks:
• Final reflections on Bobby’s impact in the fire service and his unwavering passion for teaching.
• Host thanks Bobby for his time and insights, wrapping up with mutual encouragement.