Mickey talks to prolific writer and firearms instructor Massad Ayoob, well known in the gun community for his classic self-defense book "In the Gravest Extreme." Ayoob is a Championship handgun shooter and former handgun editor of GUNS magazine.

To learn more about Massad Ayoob's various publications and training classes visit MassadAyoobGroup.com.

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Intro - "3rd Eye Blimp" by Otis McDonald

Outro - "I Want More" by Silent Partner

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