In this episode, Sheri Geffreys and Gina Gallagher share their healthy journey stories. They have an interesting past together! They were close friends in high school, went their separate ways and eventually found each other again on Facebook and rekindled their friendship. It turned out they’d each had a unique health journey that led them to seek out alternative healing methods.
Learn how each of these women found relief and healing and eventually founded a company to help other women find better health products. Visit them at Yonder Food.
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Episode Transcript
Cheryl McColgan (00:00.897)
Hello everyone, welcome to the Heal Nourish Grow podcast. And if you have been listening for a while, you might have noticed that I have been a little bit absent and some of you know that I moved out to Utah. So the podcast has been on a little bit of a hold, but we are back and I am excited to kick off being back on the air officially with two lovely women that I have with here with me today. And that is Gina and Sherry, and they will get the privilege of me being.
maybe slightly rusty, but I think it should all be fine. So welcome to both of you. Before we get started, I’m just going to share with the audience, I think, I don’t think I’ve ever had actually two guests at the same time on the show before. So that’ll be really fun. And these two ladies have been like best friends since high school. So we’re going to hear all this really interesting backstory between the two of them. I’m gonna let Sherry start. So Sherry, if you’re watching on video, hopefully their names show up, but Gina has the lovely dark brown luscious.
Sheri Geffreys (00:30.303)
Thank you.
Cheryl McColgan (00:58.505)
hair and Sherry has the lovely blonde luscious hair, which we’ll get to later in the podcast, probably why that is and why I’m mentioning that. But Sherry, why don’t you get started and just tell everybody a little bit about your health journey and how you got interested in being in this space and sharing your story.
Sheri Geffreys (01:17.582)
sure, yeah. I mean, I mean, like you, you know, what happens in life is sometimes we have a very, you know, serious health scare. And that could also be the biggest blessing ever. Because for me, it was, you know, when I was 30 years old, and I was on maternity leave from a corporate the corporate world. And while I was pregnant, I felt a lump right here. And they just, oh, it’s probably just your thyroid, no big deal. You know, we’ll look at it when you
you know, like maybe three months or so after you give birth. Well, right after my son was born, I just, you know, you just kind of feel in your gut, like something’s not right. Like it’s way big. I went in there like immediately after he was born. And two weeks after he was born, they diagnosed me with Hodgkin’s lymphoma. And I had to go immediately into chemo and radiation. And I had to bound my breasts from stop from breastfeeding. And it just like hit me and I didn’t know anything, you know, cause I wasn’t really.
studying the natural health space or anything. So I just didn’t know anything and I just went into it and it scared me because my brother had that same exact cancer, Hodgkin’s lymphoma, and he got a secondary cancer from all the harsh treatment, the chemo and radiation. He got, by the time he was 25, he got like a, like from the radiation here, he got like a cancer in his glands. And then he ended up passing away. So he had, that already happened. So I just went into chemo radiation. I was freaked out.
And as soon as that was done, I just did a deep dive into natural health. I said, I have to change my genetic expression. I gotta figure out how to get this stuff out of my body. I need to change my life because I’m a mom now and moms are warriors, you know? And so I needed to be here for the long haul. And so that’s when it started. And that was like, I just needed to do things. You know, I went back to college, took photography as a hobby and I dove into natural health. And so…
And then all these blessings started to birth from that. You know, I really like you, Cheryl, cause I know about your health journey. You know, getting rid of carbs was really, you know, one of the best things I ever did. Sugar and carbs and just a really clean, healthy diet. I would say I probably eat, I would say close to paleo with full fat dairy kind of, kind of way of eating. And it suits me. And I’ve done a lot of work with functional medicine doctors. You kind of learn about your own body and self.
And, you know, I made homemade bone broth to help nourish my body. It has a lot of trace minerals, a lot of collagen in there. I added more collagen to help rebuild my body from all that chemo and radiation, destruction. And then also make regular detoxing, you know, hot yoga, sweating it out. Um, far infrared, hot Epson salt baths. You just like regularly put the toxins out and regularly put the nutrients in, you know, and it just.
changed my life, you know, my energy went up. I was just like, wow, my ideal weight went into place, you know, all these things, like I wasn’t trying to be trim and, you know, look my best, I was just trying to feel my best and have the best health. And then by doing that, all those other benefits come along, you know? So, you know, and so now it’s been, you know, 24 years and I, you know, I’m healthy as a horse, you know, I…
You know, it’s just like, I’ve hardly ever get sick. I mean, I can’t even, I think once I got a cold, like once in the past 15 years, you know, and I just, I feel so good, you know, I am so grateful for having cancer and going through that because it’s really educated me. And I love to talk about it with people like you, Cheryl, and you know, all of us in the space, it’s just a beautiful thing on how we’re helping other women, mostly, and men, you know.
stand beside them through their health journeys because it’s real, it’s real. I mean, if you don’t take care of yourself, it catches up to you, you know, in one way or another. And it’s amazing how powerful food is, how food and nutrition make a huge difference. Yeah, and sunlight and you know, a lot of things. Yeah.
Cheryl McColgan (05:22.813)
Yeah, Sherry, wow. I mean.
Cheryl McColgan (05:27.325)
Yeah, we’ll go more into that. And before we move on to Gina, just a couple of follow up questions there. First of all, I’m so sorry about your brother. And my family is strongly affected by cancer too. I don’t know if that’s in my bio in the about part on my website, but that probably should be. Because again, you said, and hearing your story now, I feel the same way, like a lot of similarities in our backgrounds. But.
To kind of follow up, so you said that’s been quite a long time ago now, which is awesome that you’ve been cancer free for that long and look amazingly healthy, like just really vibrant. Can you kind of go back to that time and just for people who might be experiencing something similar, you said you kind of did a deep dive into the research. You started just really trying to take care of yourself a lot better. What were maybe some of the very first things that you implemented and things that you thought were the most helpful?
a critical stage of healing from cancer. So now you know you’re 20 some years out and you’re still doing all these healthy behaviors. But in that first year after the diagnosis and you found out these things and you were dealing with the chemo and the radiation, what were some of the things that you found most helpful?
Sheri Geffreys (06:37.354)
Gosh, reading, you know, reading a lot of books on natural health. It’s interesting because, you know, when I was like in high school, I remember I was, I was, it was really into this one book called Fit for Life by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond. Talked about food combining and natural health and, and I, you know, and, and now that this cancer happened, it really, you know, cause I was never, I was a kid. I never really stuck to it. I always had a, you know, like in the corporate world, let me just paint a picture. I get it.
get ready, go to work, on the way to work, go through the coffee drive-through, get a cafe mocha loaded with sugar and whipped cream and a chocolate chip scone warmed up and I’d eat that every day on the way to work. I’d work like a maniac and about three o’clock, I’d eat lunch, come home, you know, eat dinner, have a glass of wine and never exercise, never get any sun, never get any fresh air. And, you know, I changed. And so I really implemented those natural health, even that I learned a little bit in high school.
Um, what I craved, it was interesting. My body, I could feel my body craving healthier choices, you know? So I would, I read a lot. I immediately just started eating more like buying organic fruits and vegetables, understanding. Um, I tried to go a little bit like no meat, but I couldn’t do that with myself. You know, I learned about so many things. Like I’m a type O blood positive. So I don’t know. They say that that’s a kind of more of a meat eater, you know? So I.
So like I said, like I figured out for me, the paleo with whole fat dairy works for me, and it was interesting too, cause when I got rid of all the carbs, I always had a mucus issue, like sinus infection, mucus issue. And when I was a kid, the doctors would say, oh, you have, you’re allergic to dairy. No, I’m not. Cause as soon as I got rid of all the carbs, all my mucus went away. I have never had an issue and I have never had a sinus infection and I eat.
Cheryl McColgan (08:25.474)
Yeah.
Sheri Geffreys (08:30.922)
High quality, you know, like I love raw dairy. Raw dairy has so much more nutrients in it with enzymes and all that stuff. So I have like heavy cream raw dairy in my coffee every morning. I mean, you know, I eat high quality aged cheeses and you know, I have no issue with mucus, you know, it’s just interesting, you know. And I think reading different from different functional medicine type experts and different podcasts and you learn, I learned from people like you Cheryl, like what’s worked for you.
I’ve learned from functional medicine doctors, it’s just really doing that deep dive and it’s evolving. I’m still learning because I’m just going through perimetoposal and that’s been a whole other world. I’ve gotten my arms around, I’m starting to feel amazing again because I started to go down the hill and I realized my hormones were done. So now I’ve raised them back up with bioidentical hormones, getting my iron back up because I lost iron from the.
Gina Gallagher (09:10.862)
I’m going to go ahead and close the video.
Sheri Geffreys (09:27.038)
peri-menopausal phase because I went to heavy bleeding. I’m like, what’s that about? And you start feeling different. So I’m feeling amazing about that. You just learn. And everybody’s different. Everyone is so different. I even have the MHTFR gene mutation. I don’t know if you’ve heard of that. But you have to take methylated vitamin B. You have to stick with folate vitamin B options and not folic acid. And so I got that back balanced and that…
Cheryl McColgan (09:45.357)
Mm-hmm.
Sheri Geffreys (09:56.726)
And when you have that gene mutation too, you don’t detox as easier, as easy as other people. So you really have to make sure you’re doing a lot of regular detox stuff. Like I do, I’m back doing hot yoga, which I’m thrilled, cause I literally sweat buckets, like buckets. And I mean, I drink water like this much. I put the trace minerals in there and everything. And when I’m done with class, I’m like, I’m so happy. I don’t know how to explain it. I’m just feel so good.
Cheryl McColgan (10:01.069)
Mm.
Cheryl McColgan (10:14.509)
I’m sorry.
Sheri Geffreys (10:25.95)
because my body just needs to detox and it doesn’t detox as easy as other people because of that gene mutation, which, you know, and it’s great because like the functional medicine doctor that I go to now, you have to, you see, you don’t put your health in one person’s hands. It’s in your hands. You’re the director of your health, you know? You use a whole team of health avenues between individual people like you, Cheryl, where I learned from.
and functional medicine doctors, and my own experience in nutrition, and you just put it all together. So when I go to see my functional medicine doctor, I co-collaborate with her. Okay, let’s check all the blood. She knows a bunch of stuff I learned from. And I tell her, okay, I also wanna check this. I also wanna do this. Are you familiar with this? And then, you know, we work as a team. So you really have to trust yourself. You know, you have to be the center of your own health. Like be your own director, you know? So, and that’s important.
Cheryl McColgan (11:20.637)
Yeah. And I think nothing points that out more. Absolutely. Nothing points that out more obviously than you, you know, you didn’t wait three months because you felt something was wrong with your body and thank goodness you went right away because you just never know how quickly those processes go on. Um, and we’ll have to come back to the hot yoga at some point, because I feel like you must be like my long lost Twitter or something, because I actually taught hot yoga for years.
Sheri Geffreys (11:24.326)
Yeah.
Sheri Geffreys (11:29.447)
Mm-mm.
Sheri Geffreys (11:38.73)
Hahaha
Sheri Geffreys (11:42.014)
That’s what I’m saying. Cheryl, no, I think you might be my sister or something.
Gina Gallagher (11:47.054)
I’m going to go to bed.
Cheryl McColgan (11:48.353)
We have to ask our, well, ask some parents what’s going on here. But anyway, I think it’s a good segue and a good break that we’ll go on to Gina’s story. And then at some point I’ll have you two kind of go back and forth a little bit with like some of your like kind of way back history, because I just think that would be kind of entertaining for people. But Gina, it would be great now if you could please share some of your health journey. And then after that, we’ll kind of go into how you guys know each other.
Sheri Geffreys (11:54.314)
Ha ha
Gina Gallagher (12:05.461)
Yeah.
Interstitial Cystitis Diet
Gina Gallagher (12:14.262)
Sure. Yeah. So I, as a child and into my teens, suffered with getting chronic bladder infections. And so I was constantly being put on antibiotics. I have a condition called interstitial cystitis. And a lot of people don’t know what that is, but it’s basically…
the lining in your bladder is super sensitive. And so you’re more prone to get bladder infections, but you can also feel like you have one when you don’t. And so in my early 20s, I had a urologist who just put me on a daily dose of antibiotics and it just destroyed my gut. So between dealing with the IC and now the gut issues, I was just a wreck.
Sheri Geffreys (12:46.582)
So in my early 20s, I had a urologist who just put me on a daily dose of antibiotics and it just destroyed my gut. So, me dealing with the IC, now the gut issues, I was just a wreck. So I had to, you know, be my own advocate because…
Gina Gallagher (13:06.35)
So I had to be my own advocate because it was just destroying me, the antibiotics. So I kind of took matters into my own hands as well, especially after going to a urologist and them wanting to prescribe a medication that is now off the market because it destroys people’s livers.
Sheri Geffreys (13:14.358)
It was just destroying me, that antibiotic. So I kind of...